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and yet rfk was a politician running for the highest office in the land when he was assassinated? of course the larger situations are different between our 2 nations, and i don't immediately see any useful comparisions, but the usa has experienced it's fair share of corrupt, violence-tinged elections and to say "stuff like this doesn't happen" here makes me just as curious about your edumacation

and that's why i've never liked hash!

i do not avoid women...but i do deny them my essence when did you first become...well, develop this theory? well...it was during the physical act of love, dan...a profound feeling of fatigue came over me...luckily i was able to interpret these feelings correctly - loss of essence! i can assure you, it has not happened again!

whatever her politics and true nature, you have to envy the courage of a woman who could keep going knowing full well how likely that course of action would lead to this bloody conclusion for herself

it's hard to tell which of my presents is having the least amount of fun...

i do not avoid women...but i do deny them my essence

women sense my power, and seek the life-essence...

don't let the dream die - the fuck-jesus thread must go on! how about this little dylan tune for the expedition theme-song? WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE Oh my name it is nothin' My age it means less The country I come from Is called the Midwest I's taught and brought up there The laws to abide And that land that I live in Has God on its side. Oh the history books tell it They tell it so well The cavalries charged The Indians fell The cavalries charged The Indians died Oh the country was young With God on its side. Oh the Spanish-American War had its day And the Civil War too Was soon laid away And the names of the heroes I's made to memorize With guns in their hands And God on their side. Oh the First World War, boys It closed out its fate The reason for fighting I never got straight But I learned to accept it Accept it with pride For you don't count the dead When God's on your side. When the Second World War Came to an end We forgave the Germans And we were friends Though they murdered six million In the ovens they fried The Germans now too Have God on their side. I've learned to hate Russians All through my whole life If another war starts It's them we must fight To hate them and fear them To run and to hide And accept it all bravely With God on my side. But now we got weapons Of the chemical dust If fire them we're forced to Then fire them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side. In a many dark hour I've been thinkin' about this That Jesus Christ Was betrayed by a kiss But I can't think for you You'll have to decide Whether Judas Iscariot Had God on his side. So now as I'm leavin' I'm weary as Hell The confusion I'm feelin' Ain't no tongue can tell The words fill my head And fall to the floor If God's on our side He'll stop the next war.

i wonder how a satanist climbing club looking for partners on the big D woulda fared? man, that's a trip i could sink my teeth into (figuratively at least)!

there was that blind guy who climbed everest a few years back - wrote a book about it - Erik Weihenmayer - heard he does more than just snow-slog, maybe you should check out his book?

um, wasn't the solstice yesterday? christ, i hate "war and peace!"

...is supposed to be written only sparingly in the jewish tradition ...is the only word my first girlfriend knew how to say, usually proceeded by "O"

let's get back to the very important thing we were discussing... ...which was what again? ah, yes, i remember! you see, simon and simon were not brothers in real life, only on television!

i am a member of the great unsilient majority

you boys are like a coupla retards trying to hump a doorknob

? did tvash want the original locked? didn't seem so as he was contributing his fair share of trash in, as was i...

only b/c it always sucks in VA, regardless of the season - i always preferred the winter to the exruciating suck of the hot, muggy summer...

all for the preserving of the greater lenght of da-fawking-nodder!?! i want to be angry, but i don't have to work till next year and i managed to get a day of climbing in y-day in the only decent weather forecasted for a week now, so i kinda feel like i'm just going through the motions of outrage...

guess i'm a heathen - in o'er-glancing the epicness contained herein, i don't see how this thread's more or less asine than the dipshits on denali thread

the denali dipshit thread will die when feck capricously decides to kill it in a vain attempt to preserve the sanctity and virtue of the gilded age of da nodder and muir on sunday, which have aged as well as a piece of brie... hoping the weather will clear after xmas so i can get a rare winter extended alpine trip in 'fore returning to the factory. really wanted to do jo'burg but thinking i don't want to waste all that time hiking in and out from the washout to get to a route's who striking feature is a 10 minute approach in summer...

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blech! quite spraying climbing-mecho-porn over my beautiful romantic vignettes! used the joeH handwarmer system today but it was overkill - plenty warm for the oldskool ways...next month, however...

athe weather wasn't so bad - pretty warm till the sun got low - probably in the low 40s and unnaturally calm - the whole gorge is frosted w/ snow above 1000 feet or so - the ice-lines forming on hamilton mtn cliff last sunday have all fallen off - it was just incredibly wet, full on waterfall comign down jill's thrill - the only patch of dry rock all day was the short patch above the crux on the slab pitch just below the roof - the rest of hte slab was nuts! basically aided off a red alien to get started into it - the normal lie-back block section required a complete mental retooling to complete - all the while reflecting htat the dude belaying me, who had the typical newbie tight-leash syndrome going on, might just as well let me take the total ride if i fell! again though, bill kept his shit good n' wired tight and i couldn't have been happier w/ how it all worked out - someone please remind him that days like this are almost, but not quite, completly not what rock climbing's all about!

hats off to billbob, a lurker about, who was the only foolish mortal to take me up on my generous solstice shin-dig - dude's never even climbed rock outdoors and gets suckered into taking on beacon in it damn near narliest possible conditions - epic wetness on the corner route - even i, the veneralble master of our tussed-up-twosome, choose to pull on gear on several spots, and was damn near freak'n trying to get past the old bashed shut pin just at the top of the slab pitch - choose to lose my rock shoes sometime last sunday (maybe i left them at the top of uprising? christ, if i did, they're good'n'fuck'n'soaked now!) - discovered this in the parking lot - ahwell, a true alpine check-off today, doing the whole thing in my trangos - even the ramp pitch above tree ledge was hard-core - poor bill, yet another newbie i'm afeared i've horrible mangled the introduction of to a cruel, yet winsome, mistress. he must be saluted for his elan and willingness to get scared on this shortest of days - as the cold moon rose and the night loomed, he managed to scourge the lurking epic-beast and prusiked what he had to on the besodden steps of the 3rd pitch - jesus, i'd rather shoot meself in the head then ever solo this, my old reliable, on a horror-show day like today! the downside was he had to leave a number of my slings and a nut on route, but the upside was he appears to have totally given up on rock-climbing and bequethed me his rope and daisy-chain! shit, i hope to recover me shit meself sometime after xmas and give'em his cord back - as it is, and in violation of the 13th amendment, i'm now his indentured guide for the next year... anyhow, only saw crackman out there today - where was the rest of the posse!?!