Fairweather

D-Dog, MLK and Ghandi never set fire to, or destroyed another's property as far as I know. And causing damage to your OWN car isn't a crime last time I checked. Your position is bizzare. I usually try to attack only ideas and not individuals; but you're a real idiot. I sincerely hope your "proud EF Alumni" comment, and your apparent eco-terrorist insider info, triggers a flag in an FBI computer somewhere. [ 09-11-2002, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

Winter, even though I hate your politics, I'm still with you on the Cooper Spur thing. I've written letters.

quote: Originally posted by Winter: . . Oh yeah ... and one more thing. Its clear from your last post that seatbelts and radio programs ARE the greatest threat to your personal liberty. Too bad all the other individuals 'round these parts don't enjoy your privileged existence. Thankfully some folks can empathize with the less fortunate even though they don't face the same challenges ... chalk it up to human nature I guess.[/QB] ??? So now owning a car (with a seatbelt) and a radio is a "priveleged existence" in your world? I would say that most lawyers like yourself live a VERY priveleged existence in this country. Did I miss something, or are you just spoutin' off again? By the way Winter, isn't the Trial Lawers Association one of the biggest lobbying groups in Washington D.C.? ....Or is it just those "other" special interests (ya know; corporations, NRA, etc) that have too much political clout? For an attorney your arguments are consistently weak. [ 09-10-2002, 11:54 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

Upgraded to Netscape 7.0. This eliminated the problem. (Was using ver.4.7)

I am especially excited about the rift between the Teamsters and the AFL CIO over the latter's left-leaning politics. From what I've read lately, the Teamsters are leaning pro-Republican these days. ....Might have something to do with jobs/money/ANWR?

quote: Originally posted by Uncle Tricky: Yeah, gotta agree with you there. Seems nowadays everybody likes jackbooted thugs, as long as they are theirs! So fairweather, how would you rate W's progress on the war on the bill o rights so far? (I think Karan Hughes talked him out of calling it that publicly: "you know George, we don't necessarily need to append a "war on" to every public policy...") Actually, I'm not really concerned at all. I think the nanny liberals who want to ban talk radio as "hate speech", or want to force me to wear a bicycle helmet or a seatbelt "for my own protection" are more of a threat to my personal liberty than a justice department looking to deport/detain non-citizens. I think the "war on" thing started with LBJ's "war on poverty". It may even go back farther than that. [ 09-10-2002, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

When I'm hiking out of the backcountry after a long climb and my LaSportiva K2's are pounding down the dry hard trail with no swampy mud holes to be found, there's nothing like steppin' into some nice soft horsey poo. Oh yeah! Just like steppin' in soft butter. It makes my feet sing. I'll go out of my way to find it, and it's best when it is not too fresh and runny, yet not too old and hard. Horses are OK with me. I think dogs should be ok in a NP within x miles of a trailhead, but maybe not in the deeper backcountry.

I thought this thread originated as a troll about the socialists-are-us festival in South Africa last week. Hey, do you suppose those starving people in Ziare know that their government rejected the USA's gift of GM corn because it "might not be safe to eat"? Gee, I guess STARVING TO DEATH is a little safer! (By the way; that's the same corn US citizens have been safely eating for years.) ...just another example of third-world government arrogance. BTW, Allison is more right than wrong about unions. As a non-union middle manager, my wages and benefits are directly affected by my union counterparts within the corporation for which I work. ........but that's not to say I ALWAYS agree with Allison. [ 09-09-2002, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

www.cdfe.org/daschle_logging.htm ....now you'll tell me how its BOTH Republicans AND Democrats that you decry! .....only I never seem to hear the outrage here when Dems do it. Just constant whining about "Cheyney"... "the administration"..."The Bushies"...blah, blah, blah, blah. Five years ago it was the right-wingers crying about government "jack-booted thugs". Now it is the lefties saying the exact same thing. You hypocrites.

www.cdfe.org/offset_fund.htm I am proud that our president had the balls to stay away from this whine-fest. Read the story.......what a bunch of f-ing euro hypocrites down in South Africa. ... and speaking of hypocrisy: www.cdfe.org/daschle_logging.htm

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quote: Originally posted by nolanr: Fairweather, I think all you're proving is that there is very little difference between Democrats and Republicans anymore, they're all dirty crooked ho's trading money for political favors. The Reps. have more practice at it, but the Dems. are making great strides. Actually, I thought I was demonstrating the hypocricy of the left. Whenever you remind them of comparable Democrat/environmentalist/left wing transgressions they seem to want to "move on" rather quickly to another subject. I'll grant that choices are limited in a two party system, but I'll take that system over that of some countries politics where a dozen candidates run for office and the winner is the one who got 15 or 16 percent of the vote.......thereby leaving over 80% of the population really pissed off!

quote: Originally posted by Jim: Here's a recent example of how it works: Even after all the coporate crimes in the news one would think that the Bush administration would avoid even the appearance of graft. Not so - guess who got the 300 million contract to build the new, updated detention center at Guantanomo Bay, Cuba. You guessed it - Hallerburton - the company Cheny came from. So is this fair - a bunch of fat cats feeding from the public trough. I don't go in for your social darwinism arguments. It's a matter of fairness. So Jim, Where was your outrage when Kenneth Leigh (Enron) was sleeping in the Clinton Admin. Lincoln Bedroom? Where was your outrage when Clinton was taking campaign $$$ from communist Chinese PLA agents via Charlie Trei? When Clinton accepted $200,000 from Loran Space Tech. and shortly thereafter approved a rocket-staging technology transfer so the Chinese govt. could improve the reliability of its missiles? At least Bush admin. "shortfalls" don't involve treason against the United States. Where is your outrage now that Terry Mcalluf, president of the Democrat(ic) National Comittee has realized an $18,000,000 windfall from a $100k investment in "Global Crossing", which shortly thereafter went bankrupt? It's fun to pick and choose your outrage and indignation, isn't it Jim? [ 08-27-2002, 08:50 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

AK, I see you're at post #999. Please post again so I can see if #1000 changes your status.

Climbed Mount Athabasca Saturday with my brother Steve, by the normal glacier route. Beautiful weather! A couple parties on the Silverhorn, and a couple more on the North Face. (including a party of two that appeared to be struggling very badly) Both routes looked very icy. FYI: The "Skyladder" route on Andromeda looked very thin from the road. The rappel down to AA Glacier (partially visible from Athabasca summit) looks sickening. (by my slogger standards) 13 hour drive up (from Tacoma) 6 hours sleep 5 1/2 hours to summit 1 hour on top 3 hours down 12 hour drive home

MattP Which routes have you done? I have three days to climb next weekend and we're looking at The Castle Route as one of our options. (I'm sure it is bone dry right now, but on this particular route, I'm not sure late season conditions are a detrement) I've wanted to do this route ever since I read "Tales of a Western Mountaineer". Any beta to share?

Took my son up Old Snowy last Saturday. The flowers were out!

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Darn! Fairweather and here I thought you were on the right side of these arguments. Pun intended. The US is at very low unemployment (even under current conditions)and you find it ethically wrong to support a person in China who is living under completely destitute conditions in favor of a comparatively fabulously rich person with lots of alternatives in the US? I just don't get it. Care for kin but not for kind? PP While I do believe in "free trade", I reserve the right to make consumer choices based on business ethics. My major point was intended to question why the three gaiters cost the same! It is certainly within Mountain Hardware's and BD's right to make as much profit as the market will bear. This said, why don't they lower the price of their gaiters and compete? It is almost as though the prices of the three gaiters were FIXED. All other things being roughly equal...I'll chose American-made. As far as "caring"....yes, I DO care more about American/Western (and Japan & So Korea & Rus.Fed.& Taiwan too!) workers than those in communist China. (What can I say?) [ 08-13-2002, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

Used 4 times. Size 42 euro (8 1/2 - 9 US). Paid $425; asking $200/offer. E-mail me: rybolt@seanet.com or send an PM.

I recently purchased a new set of gaiters. My choices were: 1.) Mountain Hardware "Ventigater" 2.) Black Diamond 3.) OR Supercroc's. All three were about the same price (55.00). It came down to this.....The OR's were the only ones made in the USA. Both Black D's and Mtn. Hardware's were "made in China". If they were made with cheap labor and lax regulation in a country with no environmental or human rights restrictions.... Then Why The F@#$% aren't they cheaper?! Seems to me maybe Black Diamond should stop harping about genetically modified corn, and make their products in the USA, or at least in a country who's workers enjoy a higher standard of living. ( Canada, W Europe, even Checz Rep! ) Anyway, I bought the OR's.

SS, While I think the "99%" figure is absurd, your post is appreciated. My daughter is 16. I think back to when I was 16... I could go hiking, climbing, biking, with friends. I had few worries about abduction or violence being perpetrated upon me. I find it sad/shameful/sickening that my daughter cannot take off on some hikes, in many areas, alone or with a female friend for fear that she will become another victim. Would I let her go for a solo day hike up the Middle Fork?... Hell No! My son?...Yes, probably. A double standard based on sad facts. Can anyone honestly say that a 16 year old male is at the same risk? I am convinced the most dangerous part of many backcountry trips lies at/below the trailhead where the most dangerous animals on Earth live. My daughter is far from naive, yet not overly paranoid either. I'm looking into enrolling her in a Ju-Jitsu class as this appears to be the most "street-oriented", female friendly self defense. (She tells me she'll do it...if her friends don't find out.) Do you have any suggestions? [ 08-05-2002, 11:04 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: "Designate" some place as wilderness to get more people there. I like the part about making some areas wheelchair accessible. I am not discriminating but damn I dont see too many people in wheelchairs out in the mountains except for that dude who whined about not having wheelchair accessible crappers at muir. The reason that handicapped guy threatened to sue the NPS about the toilets/access was because they gave him so much SHIT about using his "mechanized" snowpod in designated wilderness. Took him over 2 years to get "approval". .....Maybe the NPS had to check with The Sierra Club to see if it was OK.

Wow! I've been out of town for a few days and look at the spray! (Thanks for not robbing my house Alpine K) ...And a blatant troll from my "Loser-tarian"/socialist friend Zenolith. Mike Adam and Greg W have my respect. As for "Dr Flash Amazing"; his constant use of third-person when referring to himself and his very Avatar indicates his ego is probably boundless, and his ideas are predictably in favor of a weak America. I doubt there is any reasoning to be had with him. I'll keep my comments short: 1) Aireal bombardment = fewer American soldiers dying. (Yes, Dr Flash...this is a good thing) 2) The decision to produce the B1 Bomber was the straw that broke the USSR's financial back. (Socialism rewards the lazy and punishes the ambitious...how could they ever finish the marathon?) 3) The Saudi's are NOT our friends either....we should stop buying their oil and get it elsewhere. (Russian Fed. or ANWR) If the Saudi's want to keep supporting Islamic revolution/terrorism around the world then we should bomb them too. (from air bases in Isreal....our only true friends in the region). We should NOT buy our oil from them! (wake up GW!) 4) Sometimes might-makes-right. 5) I'm really tired of the same old liberal "I'm-smarter-than-you-are" arguments. Liberals should realize that much of America looks upon them with the same disdain that liberals themselves heap upon wealthy country-club snobs. 6) As American citizens we are all free to make our case for change.....within the bounds of the law and The US Constitution. ....I'm not sure all Liberals today are willing to stay within those boundaries. (As recently demonstrated by WTO and comp. gatherings worldwide) Maybe Mike Adam is right. Maybe it comes down to "left vs. right"....You vs. us. 7) On the evening of 9/11/01 I saw images of sorrow/horror from Isreal, Russia, western Europe, China, around the world.......and images of muslims dancing in the streets and passing out candy around the world.... (including a Somali population near Seattle.) Should we really be searching 70 year old Chineese ladies at airports in the name of PC? Get real! [ 08-04-2002, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]