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Forged Trailpark Permit Bolt Cutters Cordless Dremmel with metal cutting disc Acetylene torch Set of bogus license plates Cammo Netting My vehicle is now ready for total trailhead access...

Thanks DKemp and Dubya, I recently got hold of a video titled "Tommy Moe's Alaska Adventures". One of the segments is a climb of Iliamna Volcano, and a ski descent! Incredible video shots. The climb looks very straightforward. These folks flew in to Tongue Glacier. The logo on the plane's tail reads "Talkeetna Air Taxi". I haven' t contacted them yet, but this area seems a little bit out of their traditional territory. I did get a reply from another air taxi service that will land here, but he wants a LOT of $$$$. He'll also land on Drift River gravel bars for Redoubt Volcano. This is much cheaper. It sounds cheaper to do Iliamna the hard way. My summer 2003 schedule isn't looking very good for anything that takes longer than 9 or 10 days. ...Not looking good for this year ....unless I quit my job. (!)

Mtn Goat, You're too kind to SC. Communists deserve no safe harbor. Although I admire your well thought out responses to the many lefties here, you surely realize by now that your efforts are for naught. No amount of data you present; no logic or common sense you try to bring to the debate, will sway the likes of the "blame America first" types. J_B, Sexual Chocolate, Nercmicron, Flash not-so-Amazing in particular only heap derision on you when you present the evidence or partake of the debate they request. So why not just take off the gloves once in a while? SC in particular, who fancies herself (himself?) part of the Lennin-youth corps, and rarely presents evidence to back up her claims, needs a good verbal whoopin' now and then. Why not have a little fun?

...TO SexChoc, and all those who voted for Ralph Nader or The Socialist Workers Party in the 2000 election.... THANKYOU!!!!! THANKYOU!!!! THANKYOU!!!! (....but we won't be needing your assistance 2004 )

From Spanaway? No, DFA. Is that where you buy your meth?

How about mini-vans? They get equally bad gas mileage. Do you hate those people too? ....'fess up.... It's really about class-warfare with you guys, isn't it? What about those "mini-SUV's" like the RAV4 and Honda CRV? Do they qualify as planet killers? Are the drivers terrorist huggers too? What kinda milage you gettin' these days AK? Matt's Audi A4 gets pretty good mileage! Are you doing your part too?

JB, the "vastly environment conscious public" to which you refer will (and is) jump off your enviro-ship in a heartbeat when it hits their wallets hard enough. And all the intent-of-the-law twisting environmental lawyers in America won't be able to keep them on board. Sad, but true.

The main financiers of this ad campaign are Ariana Huffington, Norman Lear, and Larry David. All three of them ride in BIG chauffered limos, fly in private jets, and live in 10,000+ square foot homes that need to be heated, I'm sure. In addition, Mr Lear owns 21 automobiles. Fucking hypocrites ALL! (And typical liberals) Re: the drug ad comparison...Last time I checked drugs we're illegal; and SUV's are not.

Actually JB I have two kids. Ages 13 and 16. I have strived (quite successfully) to innoculate them against elements of "pop culture", gratuitous advertising, and of course the fallacy of modern American liberalism. I assume you are a parent as well?

I'll admit that there is a BIG inconsistency when parents allow their kids to watch ultra-violent movies/video games, eat foods that are 90 to 100% fat, but will become outraged when a woman's breasts are bared on screen or for breast-feeding in public. ...just a product of our culture I guess... Killing=good. Sex=bad. Shitty Food=tasty. But in the end, it's the parents choice to what degree they wish to expose their kids to such things. (within the law and "societal norms") ....run with it SC.

JB, ...they're called PARENTS. And they make decisions for their children. I know pro-nanny government types like to put forth anti-freedom legislation by proclaiming loudly, "it's for the children!", but that line is getting pretty lame these days. Liberals are apparently satisfied with their progress against "Big Tobacco" and are going forth with lawsuits against "big food". Sounds to me like you're just a tool for the trial lawers association.

Many of those listed in "exibit A" are actually liberals. Mara Liasson and Juan Williams to name two. The difference is this: Most, if not all conservative pundits readily ADMIT their conservatism. With the exception of Donohue, the liberal mainstream media hides behind a cloak of "objectivity", presenting editorials as "news". Trask, can you honestly tell me that NPR is unbiased?

JB, I, personally, don't eat the shit. But I would not deny the right to, or begrudge those who do. You, however, seem to have a big problem with those who knowingly choose to eat unhealthy food. Freedom.

Actually, they are unusually entertaining these days. Thank God they're on the sidelines!

What does Algore weigh these days? 280? 295? A real nutcase who piled on the ###'s after his defeat. I question the mental fitness of anyone who would pile on that much weight just because he lost a contest. Sounds like a real crybaby. But then again, that's what the Dem's are known for these days. At least he finally shaved his "taliban look" beard.

J_B, I think your McDonalds statement is quite revealing! You really DON'T believe in personal freedom, do you? I think ideas like yours are more dangerous to my personal freedoms than any right-leaning administration. STOP THE NANNY GOVERNMENT!

Pope, Have you checked out GW's workout schedule? Probably the most fit president in the history of the country. He likely puts both you and Al Gore to shame. And besides, I've heard that Ol' Gore never actually made it to the top...not even the rim...not even close. http://webmd.lycos.com/content/article/53/61277.htm?

So you don't mind that your revolutionary hero kills unarmed protesters? Is that OK because he is a communist like you? You seem to fancy yourself some sort of neo-socialist-intellectual, but I believe perhaps you are just a misguided ex-student who has probably been reading a bit too much Chompsky, and perhaps has just a little too much time on his hands. Go back to your collective, SC. The hive needs you. ...Still waiting for you to back up your smallpox statements with facts...

Sc, You mean Hugo Chavez, the trojan horse communist leader who shoots peaceful union protesters dead in the streets? That Hugo Chavez? Are you a member of a (now armed) Bolivarian Circle? Is he another one of your "revolutionary" heros? .....oh yeah; and I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that the US government intentionally killed native americans with smallpox..... your silence is killin' me!

So you, J_B, naturally lay claim to 100% of these "disenfranchised" citizens?

Ronald Reagan won 49 states in the election of 1984! Popular Vote: 1984 Ronald Reagan: 54,455,075 Walter Mondale: 37,577,185 Popular Vote 1980: Ronald Reagan: 43,899,248 Jimmy Carter: 36,481,435 John Anderson:: 5,719,437 ...someone in a previous post said that no president had ever won a "clear" majority. I thought I'd just throw in this little reminder. Reagan CLEARLY had a "mandate" but it is doubtful many of the lefties here recall his tenure with anything but disdain.

By the Col.'s logic, Mcdonalds and Burger King should be allowed equal access to the food service franchise at MRNP? And Holiday Inn Inc. should share access to Longmire and Paradise Inn overnight lodging franchises? I think RMI gets most of the pie because they provide the most $$$ to the park, and they provide a good quality service.

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Could this just be a reaction to environmentalist's constant harping about, and ongoing attempts to erode the ORV'ers EXISTING access? (ie: Dark Divide, Yellowstone snowmobiles, etc) I don't own any type of ORV (although I do accasionally ride a mountain bike), but I can understand why ORV'ers dislike the Seattle-enviro-elite crowd. Shit, many of the same intolerant groups that hate ORV'ers would also like to slap severe limits on ALL backcountry access! That includes hikers, mtn bikers, skiers, and CLIMBERS. That means you. 1.) I suspect that, as is often the case, the Seattle PI story does not have all of the facts. (Some of you might want to x-check this thing out before your letters start flying) 2.) I also suspect that this proposal is simply an extreme negotiating stance meant to counter the extremism often demonstrated by the "other side". Flame away!

...my point exactly.