Fairweather

quote: Originally posted by Poseur: Way back when I needed a bear gun, the 870 was the better pick over the 500, based on the highly scientific "shake test" - shake 'em both and see which one rattles the most and then buy the other. The Remington 870 is probably a superior weapon overall. However the Mossberg 500 is a bit lighter as the receiver is aluminum, versus steel for the 870.

Winchester Ranger .30-.30 cal lever gun. 33 inches overall length and under 6lbs. 5 shots in the magazine. I know this is a marginal caliber, but it beats the hell out of ANY handgun incl. .44mag. Stoeger "Coachgun". 12ga side-by-side; the theory being that you'll not likely get off more than two shots from a pump-gun anyway, so why not go with two virtually simultaneous shots from a double barrel? Use 00 for bears; #4 for the "other predators" out there. My two cents.

Impressions and Stereotypes. If the (human causation) global warming alarmists weren't so closely allied with fringe groups and socialist/anarchist causes around the world, their positions might receive a more moderate and considered reception. I realize that it is these fringe groups who cling to this science and use it as a mechanism to advance their causes, and that the climate scientists who subscribe to HCGW are (mostly) sincere. But they should do more to distance themselves from radicals and radical ideas and promote a more gradual/long term social/economic change. In the view of many, including myself, Kyoto was indeed a radical idea. (And worthless to boot!) If humans are in fact responsible for a measure of global warming, it has yet to be proven to me... and millions of others. And when I see lefties as the primary promoters of HCGW theory, I simply "tune out". I suspect the most moderate presentaion of the science will win the hearts and minds of the general population. Not the side that hysterically presents its story as "fact" before all the "facts" are in. Spend $1,000,000,000,000 of American tax dollars on "a hunch"?? A "what if" proposition?? That will never fly. As I see it, the burden of proof falls on those who want us to change our way of life.

...oh shit, here we go again.

My heart aches for this guy's wife and children. I understand that he had two. I heard that Jim Wickwire was leading this climb. If this is true, it continues the "unluckiest" streak in the history of mountaineering. (for partners deceased, that is) I don't believe in karma or luck, but if they exist JW's are rotten. [ 09-23-2002, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

quote: Originally posted by Necronomicon: The Japanese civilians were at the point of pushing the militarists to surrender. Even the emperor was pushing to surrender. We bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in part, to end the war quickly so that the USSR would have no claim to occupying Japan, as they had yet to declare war against Japan. We also sent a message to the Soviets saying "Hey, look what we have and you don't." Ever heard of Sakalin Island? They still hold it. Your theory is bunk. I am undecided on the whole Iraq thing. Lets instead invade Saudi Arabia and install a government that allows women to drive cars and citizens to attend secular schools that don't teach their citizens to hate the west. We should just assasinate Saddam and his close associates and let the chips fall where they may. Judge Judy for president!!!! [ 09-17-2002, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

"Tell me who you'd think would be better before you pan this point."[/QB] Ok, I like GW and can think of only one person who would do a better job: Ariel Sharon. [ 09-16-2002, 10:41 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

Tahoma Glacier; first ascent in 1891 by P.B. VanTrump, Dr Warren Riley,.... and Riley's Deerhound.

D-Dog, MLK and Ghandi never set fire to, or destroyed another's property as far as I know. And causing damage to your OWN car isn't a crime last time I checked. Your position is bizzare. I usually try to attack only ideas and not individuals; but you're a real idiot. I sincerely hope your "proud EF Alumni" comment, and your apparent eco-terrorist insider info, triggers a flag in an FBI computer somewhere. [ 09-11-2002, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

Winter, even though I hate your politics, I'm still with you on the Cooper Spur thing. I've written letters.

quote: Originally posted by Winter: . . Oh yeah ... and one more thing. Its clear from your last post that seatbelts and radio programs ARE the greatest threat to your personal liberty. Too bad all the other individuals 'round these parts don't enjoy your privileged existence. Thankfully some folks can empathize with the less fortunate even though they don't face the same challenges ... chalk it up to human nature I guess.[/QB] ??? So now owning a car (with a seatbelt) and a radio is a "priveleged existence" in your world? I would say that most lawyers like yourself live a VERY priveleged existence in this country. Did I miss something, or are you just spoutin' off again? By the way Winter, isn't the Trial Lawers Association one of the biggest lobbying groups in Washington D.C.? ....Or is it just those "other" special interests (ya know; corporations, NRA, etc) that have too much political clout? For an attorney your arguments are consistently weak. [ 09-10-2002, 11:54 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

Upgraded to Netscape 7.0. This eliminated the problem. (Was using ver.4.7)

I am especially excited about the rift between the Teamsters and the AFL CIO over the latter's left-leaning politics. From what I've read lately, the Teamsters are leaning pro-Republican these days. ....Might have something to do with jobs/money/ANWR?

quote: Originally posted by Uncle Tricky: Yeah, gotta agree with you there. Seems nowadays everybody likes jackbooted thugs, as long as they are theirs! So fairweather, how would you rate W's progress on the war on the bill o rights so far? (I think Karan Hughes talked him out of calling it that publicly: "you know George, we don't necessarily need to append a "war on" to every public policy...") Actually, I'm not really concerned at all. I think the nanny liberals who want to ban talk radio as "hate speech", or want to force me to wear a bicycle helmet or a seatbelt "for my own protection" are more of a threat to my personal liberty than a justice department looking to deport/detain non-citizens. I think the "war on" thing started with LBJ's "war on poverty". It may even go back farther than that. [ 09-10-2002, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

When I'm hiking out of the backcountry after a long climb and my LaSportiva K2's are pounding down the dry hard trail with no swampy mud holes to be found, there's nothing like steppin' into some nice soft horsey poo. Oh yeah! Just like steppin' in soft butter. It makes my feet sing. I'll go out of my way to find it, and it's best when it is not too fresh and runny, yet not too old and hard. Horses are OK with me. I think dogs should be ok in a NP within x miles of a trailhead, but maybe not in the deeper backcountry.

I thought this thread originated as a troll about the socialists-are-us festival in South Africa last week. Hey, do you suppose those starving people in Ziare know that their government rejected the USA's gift of GM corn because it "might not be safe to eat"? Gee, I guess STARVING TO DEATH is a little safer! (By the way; that's the same corn US citizens have been safely eating for years.) ...just another example of third-world government arrogance. BTW, Allison is more right than wrong about unions. As a non-union middle manager, my wages and benefits are directly affected by my union counterparts within the corporation for which I work. ........but that's not to say I ALWAYS agree with Allison. [ 09-09-2002, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

www.cdfe.org/daschle_logging.htm ....now you'll tell me how its BOTH Republicans AND Democrats that you decry! .....only I never seem to hear the outrage here when Dems do it. Just constant whining about "Cheyney"... "the administration"..."The Bushies"...blah, blah, blah, blah. Five years ago it was the right-wingers crying about government "jack-booted thugs". Now it is the lefties saying the exact same thing. You hypocrites.

www.cdfe.org/offset_fund.htm I am proud that our president had the balls to stay away from this whine-fest. Read the story.......what a bunch of f-ing euro hypocrites down in South Africa. ... and speaking of hypocrisy: www.cdfe.org/daschle_logging.htm

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quote: Originally posted by nolanr: Fairweather, I think all you're proving is that there is very little difference between Democrats and Republicans anymore, they're all dirty crooked ho's trading money for political favors. The Reps. have more practice at it, but the Dems. are making great strides. Actually, I thought I was demonstrating the hypocricy of the left. Whenever you remind them of comparable Democrat/environmentalist/left wing transgressions they seem to want to "move on" rather quickly to another subject. I'll grant that choices are limited in a two party system, but I'll take that system over that of some countries politics where a dozen candidates run for office and the winner is the one who got 15 or 16 percent of the vote.......thereby leaving over 80% of the population really pissed off!

quote: Originally posted by Jim: Here's a recent example of how it works: Even after all the coporate crimes in the news one would think that the Bush administration would avoid even the appearance of graft. Not so - guess who got the 300 million contract to build the new, updated detention center at Guantanomo Bay, Cuba. You guessed it - Hallerburton - the company Cheny came from. So is this fair - a bunch of fat cats feeding from the public trough. I don't go in for your social darwinism arguments. It's a matter of fairness. So Jim, Where was your outrage when Kenneth Leigh (Enron) was sleeping in the Clinton Admin. Lincoln Bedroom? Where was your outrage when Clinton was taking campaign $$$ from communist Chinese PLA agents via Charlie Trei? When Clinton accepted $200,000 from Loran Space Tech. and shortly thereafter approved a rocket-staging technology transfer so the Chinese govt. could improve the reliability of its missiles? At least Bush admin. "shortfalls" don't involve treason against the United States. Where is your outrage now that Terry Mcalluf, president of the Democrat(ic) National Comittee has realized an $18,000,000 windfall from a $100k investment in "Global Crossing", which shortly thereafter went bankrupt? It's fun to pick and choose your outrage and indignation, isn't it Jim? [ 08-27-2002, 08:50 PM: Message edited by: Fairweather ]

AK, I see you're at post #999. Please post again so I can see if #1000 changes your status.