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still not working, unless I turn off the virtual firewall

When I turn that thing on, it deactivates all the cc.com animated gremlins. I can't have that! EDIT: Oh wait, I just tried the Google popup blocker and I can still see movement!! Hurrah! I must have been thinking of zone-alarm. Can't even see the icons when that thing is on. Thanks Cracky

I found a couple ticks on me after climbing Infinite Bliss last week and we checked 'em out with my daughter's microscope. That was pretty cool. Those things are pretty intimidating when magnified 60 times!

***WARNING**** Don't click on Scott's link above, unless you want a bunch of delayed-action pop-up crap asking you to buy domains and such. Thanks Scott.

Well he did practice Islam. And he defended some terrorist suspect. Don't you think that's enough corroboration?

Anything at Exit 38 or Vantage.

They let him go.

This might be sorta in the realm of blackhelicopterland but.... It seems like if we made it look like the US didn't like him. Like he was raging against us, that it could do nothing but help his popularity in Iraq. Might be a ploy to get a Bush sympathizer on the inside in the aftermath of the chaos that's going down July 1. <-- secretagentman smiley

me too!

You sound like a charlatan to me I think the quote should be attributed to Disreali.

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Why? This is probably hurting you way more than this even phases them. Someone driving a Hummer is not going to even blink at a $50 fill-up. If anything, they're just contributing to higher demand which jacks up the prices which hurts you and me way more than they will ever feel.

Hey! If you wanna do something scary, go to google news and do a search on "climber airlifted".

The radio (KPLU) this morning reported a 500 foot fall on Shuksan, airlift, climber alive. Don't know if it was the NF though. Can't find any info on the internet about it. Probably because the climber lived. Also, people seem to get hurt regularly on Chair Peak. That one probably gives LR a run for it's money.

Assmonkey what you say may be true, but I'm not so sure that electing Kerry would preclude a draft either. In fact, it might be more likely if he's elected. They need the manpower according to the generals. Kerry can do the dirty deed and blame it almost solely on Bush and his fucked up deeds.

And why is that? I'm curious. Is it because, though a bunch of knuckleheads support this stupid war, that they would rise up and literally revolt if they or their children had to go do the dirty work?

emphasis added Using the IRR would be calling up people who don't want to serve (anymore). Not all, but some. I think that's close to a draft. And yes, I think that suiting up the reserves to go to actual combat is sorta like a draft, but it's not as close to a draft as this thing. I didn't say it was a draft. I just said it's close. It also indicates that they are seriously hurting for manpower, so "close" in my sentence could also mean "close" as in the draft is the next step. And give me a break, your sisters reenlisted. They are not applicable to a discussion about IRR, except in a "rah rah, this war is great" kind of tangential way.

Check out this audio link. Click on the "Commentary: Minnesota Bus Ride". I thought it was fun! Fairweather warning: It's a link to NPR!! But don't worry. It's basically apolitical.

Military says it might return some former soldiers to duty

To specifically train for Thin Fingers you could toprope Thin Fingers to death. You can get a rope up there by either climbing Tatoosh/Free At Last (5.9 burly squeeze) or Narrow Arrow Standard (5.6 hanta-virus chockstone crawling) to the big ledge with big tree, then climb down a tree to the TF anchors. If you find a 70m rope you can toprope it from the ground. There is a nice sustained section of sinker hands, but I don't know how Alex can characterize it as sinker hands all the way. The sinker hands is a rest between the hard parts. Add: Rattletale 10a/b to the list above.

Gotta go to MA to get the license!

Adventurewagen, Letting the general public know that you think it is a dangerous route is great. That's what this board is for. What I don't get is your need to keep repeating what you guess were negative motives of the routesetters. What do you gain by continually making that point?

Bootying a biner off a midpitch bail is one thing, but ripping off biners from established rap stations is lame .

I agree that it is perplexing that there is not a continuous line of rap anchors especially in light of the extent of work done on the rest of the route. And this unexpected feature has already snared quite a few climbers. However, assuming some base motive of the routesetters is not very cool. There are many other possible explanations than what you accused them of. Also, your decision to continue climbing up past the rap gap in threatening weather was not the fault of the routesetters. I think it makes sense that the route takes a jog to the side at that point in terms of alleviating the rockfall hazard to those directly below. Finally a friendly reminder: Don't get on this route without a helmet! Even smarter would be to just turn around and head elsewhere if there's a car in the parking spot already.