rob Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 instead of making guns mandatory WHY DO YOU HATE THE SECOND AMENDMENT???? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 instead of making guns mandatory WHY DO YOU HATE THE SECOND AMENDMENT???? because he hates America of course duh! Quote
AlpineK Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Jesus Feck. You are a moterator here. And you have to resort to name calling...... Just trying to speak at the right level given your first post in the thread. Quote
rob Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Immigration policy according to the NRA: "why do we need borders, criminals are just going to cross them anyway." Quote
Peter_Puget Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Amen! Free minds, free markets and free borders! Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 LET ME BE FREE TO CREATE WEALTH!!! Gosh, that's crazy Rob. What a loony idea! And they have a sign with that written on it even. Wow. Insane. Quote
rob Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 LET ME BE FREE TO CREATE WEALTH!!! Gosh, that's crazy Rob. What a loony idea! And they have a sign with that written on it even. Wow. Insane. I know, right? Cause right now people aren't even free to get rich!!!! Because of Obama!!! I'll bet that woman would be a billionaire right now if it weren't for those damn liberals. Quote
ivan Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 the paulistas of south america wished to be free of the meddlesome regulations of spain, cause, ya know, regulations against slavery were fucking up their ability to get wealth too (funny, the base of the republican party lodges in states that made a similiar complaint not too long ago?) ah, a "free" market debate! Quote
Jim Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Here's a prime example of how screwed up the gun system is: Why you have to register a car but not a gun Quote
rob Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Here's a prime example of how screwed up the gun system is: Why you have to register a car but not a gun But now that we have to register cars isn't the government going to come round them all up?????? somebody queue kevbone Quote
E-rock Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Immigration policy according to the NRA: "why do we need borders, criminals are just going to cross them anyway." When I presented this argument to a friend (who works for the border patrol in NF) to point out one of the fallacies of her anti-gun-control argument, she accused me of attacking her profession as useless. Quote
Choada_Boy Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Hey, how 'bout that guy in Alabama that shot and killed a school bus driver in front of a busload of kids then kidnapped a kid with disabilities and is now holed up in an underground apocalypse shelter? Pretty cool that the Second Amendment gives this fuckhead lunatic the right to bear arms, huh? Quote
yellowlab03 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Yes, because he probably couldn't have got on the bus and stabbed the guy to death and then still been holed up in his underground bunker with the kid. Quote
Choada_Boy Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Yes, because he probably couldn't have got on the bus and stabbed the guy to death and then still been holed up in his underground bunker with the kid. He didn't use a knife. He murdered the guy, in front of a bus full of kids, with a gun. Isn't that awesome, gun guy? Your logical fallacy is: gun = any other weapon. "This deranged lunatic would have simply used [any other weapon] if he didn't have a gun." But he had a gun. Your logic is flawed. Quote
yellowlab03 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 No it isn't. In your effed up train of "logic", getting rid of all guns will make all the violence in the world go away. The guy is clearly crazy, no doubt. If he wanted to do this and there were no guns, he would have used something else to murder the bus driver in front of those kids and would have taken the kid and would still be holed up in his bunker. Hey what caliber assault weapon did Timothy McVeigh use in Oklahoma City? Oh, or the terrorists on 9/11? or Andrew Kehoe? You can't stop deranged crazy people from doing fucked up things. Quote
Choada_Boy Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 In your effed up train of "logic", getting rid of all guns will make all the violence in the world go away. Wrong. Getting rid of guns will get rid of gun violence. Your other examples are also invalid in this discussion. The US is not going through a crisis in terrorist bombings or knife attack massacres. The US is going through a crisis in gun violence. The only solution is to restrict access to guns. Quote
glassgowkiss Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 The guy is clearly crazy, no doubt. If he wanted to do this and there were no guns, he would have used something else to murder the bus driver in front of those kids and would have taken the kid and would still be holed up in his bunker. Hey what caliber assault weapon did Timothy McVeigh use in Oklahoma City? Oh, or the terrorists on 9/11? or Andrew Kehoe? You can't stop deranged crazy people from doing fucked up things. crazy- is it your analysis? Not crazy- according to NRA. According to you and NRA, we don't need any gun laws, because the system is working. THAT IS FUCKING CRAZY!!!! Quote
prole Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Hey look! Fuckin' FBI Statistics! 2011 Homicides by Weapon: Firearms: 8,583 Knives or Other Cutting Instruments: 1,694 Blunt Objects: 496 By Hand: 728 Poison: 5 Explosives: 12 Fire: 75 Narcotics: 29 Drowning: 15 Strangulation: 85 Asphyxiation: 89 Other: 853 I figure the average school bus driver would stand a pretty good chance of defending themselves (and their kids) with anything other than a firearm. Quote
yellowlab03 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 OMG we should just make a law against killing people, that way we just cover all of our bases with one law, then no one would get killed. I never said we don't need gun laws, hell we have close to 20,000 state and federal gun laws on the books right now. How about stiffer penalties for people who use guns in crimes or people who are caught with guns get stiffer sentences instead of a slap on the wrist. How about the media doesn't sensationalize these crimes for ratings spurring copy cat incidents? I know how you hoplophobes don't like facts though so I won't post those up again. Quote
prole Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Of course Yellowlabia, there's always this option! Quote
yellowlab03 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 You can't do that? I can point you to your local recruiting office and we can show you how to. Quote
prole Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 I would think that gun lovers would be able to point to some statistics showing the benefits of having so many guns in circulation. Where are they? Quote
prole Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 You can't do that? I can point you to your local recruiting office and we can show you how to. Apparently, you should start showing elementary school children. Quote
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