MarkMcJizzy Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 How about these protection bolts at Marble Canyon. There are seven of these protecting a 5.4c. All have hardware store "biners" afixed, so those don't even have to be brought to the crag. I don't have a particular problem with a well bolted beginner route, but the large fixed chains in leu of QD's, and the dangerous use of non-carabiners is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Maybe this is what happens when people start thinking that permanently-hung quickdraws are ok. It must make perfect sense to a gym rat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 I'm not a fan of the fixed chain QD's on steep routes because they seem to add a ton of rope drag and make the rope feel heavier. Rifle has a bunch of them. ---------------------- It is pretty scary how weak some of that hardware store stuff is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsroll Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Not only is that bad practice, it looks like crap. What people are too lazy to clip thier own draws? What next, leave the rope up for out door TR'ing? Beginners have to learn to clip bolts and think about rope drag at some point. Better on an easy route than on when they are pushing thier personal grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMcJizzy Posted August 16, 2007 Author Share Posted August 16, 2007 Not only is that bad practice, it looks like crap. My main concern is that they look like total shit. I didn't have a cresent, or I would have removed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I wish I could climb the route first.....then say good bye to them. How wierd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Since when did 5.4 get letter grades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 it's a via ferrata thing for the guide trainees at TRU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Since when did 5.4 get letter grades? What rock have you been hiding under? It's standard practice up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_forester Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 What next, leave the rope up for out door TR'ing? a steel cable on a pully would probably handle the weather better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 That's a total sandbag - it's at LEAST 5.5a That stainless stuff is expensive, the has-been nuveau-riche must be at work again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 It was 5.4d, but then tape fell off one of the crux holds, but my buddy didn't know it and he onsighted it anyway, so I think we are ready for indorphamine bliss, I heard alpine climbs are soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 LOL The Gorilla tape works excellently for those tough route-defining tags. I was obviously off-route. What a sketchfest, TR when I recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Clearly the next picture posted here should be Don's favorite Via Ferrata picture. I mean why do a wimpy Via Ferrata like the photo above when you can go full on. My best approximation: Actually after the Tacoma Narrows that thing looks pretty fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Clearly the next picture posted here should be Don's favorite Via Ferrata picture. Actually after the Tacoma Narrows that thing looks pretty fun. Nice try with the cool looking bridge. (if the bridge breaks, won't they all go sliding off the end?) Anyway, I have yet to see a via ferrata photo that exudes the same power and emotion of the favorite below. There's a little village below and the guy just crawled out of his bedroom window late in the morning, walked a block to the rungs, and set out to meet his buddies on the summit where they'll pass around a girlie magazine and swig down a couple of tall ones. This exuberant fellow seems to be saying: "Hey you! That's right, you! This is where the big fun is and I'm having some!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Dude needs some perma-draws Don. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Husbands Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 i think them ferratas look fun. sort of a cross between going climbing and going for a jog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slesse Climber Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 i think them ferratas look fun. sort of a cross between going climbing and going for a jog. Somewhere between a gondola and free climbing. We need one of those on The Chief...not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Don's favorite Via Ferrata picture. DID SOMEONE SAY VIA FERRETA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_A Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Wow. I usually stay out of the bolt war discussions, but that's fucking terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Agreed, looks like crap. I sure could use that hardware for some other stuff, so....where.. exactly is this rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Agreed, looks like crap. I sure could use that hardware for some other stuff, so....where.. exactly is this rig? Ya, man. It kinda of looks like "Rap Wall" up at Snoqualmie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirp Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Agreed, looks like crap. I sure could use that hardware for some other stuff, so....where.. exactly is this rig? Ya, man. It kinda of looks like "Rap Wall" up at Snoqualmie. Hey I own that drill rig! I love it. Great power over my old Bosch. Using at my new proj out near Black Diamond, sinking steel faster than paper boats in my bathtub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindawg Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hey I own that drill rig! I love it. Great power over my old Bosch. Using at my new proj out near Black Diamond, sinking steel faster than paper boats in my bathtub! You proud of that? Dude....if I didn't know you personally, I'd think you were a complete BOZO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Hey I own that drill rig! I love it. Great power over my old Bosch. Using at my new proj out near Black Diamond, sinking steel faster than paper boats in my bathtub! You proud of that? Dude....if I didn't know you personally, I'd think you were a complete BOZO. OK OK, calm down - he meant to say: STAINLESS STEEL. Now all is well with the world. _________________________________________________________________ Heh heh funny stuff: Thats a vicious looking lil Via Ferrata there Jon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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