Traveling to Canada ???

[letsroll]

I am heading to whistler in Feb. Looked through the US border stuff and it seems I don't need a Passport to enter US till 08 if traveling by land. Just heard on radio that I need a passport to ENTER Canada however.

 

Does anybody know what the story is? Do I need to get my passport updated??

[Weekend_Climberz]

I would bring the passport. Either way, I still seemed to get pulled out of the car anyway. Even stuffing the hair in the hat hasn't worked yet.

[ScaredSilly]

Take your passport to safe as with the rules changing there is apt to be a cluster fuck going on on both sides of the border.

 

Weekend do not feel bad about getting pulled out of the car. Happens to us each time as well. Porbably does not help that we cross the border at 2am in van.

[spotly]

I'm pretty confused on this one as well. I've read news blurbs saying it's put off till 08 then I read one recently that said the US requires them starting in 06 so...Either way, we're getting ours ASAP just-in-case and to avoid any hassles.

[HerbalTee]

I would also recommend taking your passport anyways. Also at the boarder go through the town to the trucker boarder crossing. There are like 5 lanes compared to the 2 that are at the normal boarder. no minute wait compared to 45 minute wait ain't that bad at all...

[sobo]

Even if you have an expired passport, I'd bring it with you, along with an UNexpired driver's license. You'll get into Canada (after a bit of thrashing around with the border guard) with the expired PP, but you'll probably have to go inside the office at the gate to iron it all out. But you'll get in. Trust me, my M-I-L fucked up like this on our vacation to Mayne Island this past summer.

 

Bottom line is you should get a new PP anyway, if you plan to travel out of country on even a semi-regular basis.

[mtn_mouse]

I drove from Haines AK through the Canadian Yukon and up to Talkeetna in October. I did not need a passport either way.

[tradclimbguy]

Just get old. That seems to help me get across the border

[jmace]

Yup, you need a passport in 2007. They just extended the deadline from Jan 7th 07 till later in January 2007, I think the 28th

[letsroll]

Is there a place where I can find all this info and more. I have been looking but one web sight will give info that another won't have.

[gapertimmy]

I had a friend who went into the DMV in Oregon to process his Passport, and the lady their (who I'm guessing knows, but it is the DMV after all) said you do not need a Passport to drive into Canada until 2008.

 

 

[stinkyclimber]

The Department of Homeland Security's Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) will require all US, Canadian and Mexican citizens to show a passport to enter or re-enter the US by:

- January 23, 2007 at all air and sea border crossings (that is at airports, and for entry by ferry or cruise liner like the Port Angeles-Victoria ferry)

- June 1, 2009 at all land border crossings (it could be earlier, but June 1, 2009 is the last deadline).

 

Go to the DHS website if you want it straight from the horses mouth, but this is the kind of shit I (unfortunately) work on.

 

Getting into Canada without a visa requires proof that you are a citizen of a visa-exempt country (of which, the US is one). That means proof of citizenship, which generally includes a birth certificate or passport. However, most border guards are OK accepting a valid drivers license or range of other ID. But they don't have too...if they want to be hard-ass about it, or if they suspect you are from a non-visa-exempt country or if they woke up with hemorrhoids that day and are all pissy, then they can ask to see not just a drivers license, but also some sort of proof of citizenship. But generally, a birth certificate will do it...it doesn't have to be a passport. But, border guards on both sides have very wide discretion, so they can hold out for a passport if they really want to, and there ain't a lot you can do about it.

 

But, WHTI will take away a lot of the discretion that US border guards currently have to allow US and Canadian citizens into the US with only limited ID. But no worries, at land borders anyway, for a few years (and hopefully never, if us lobbyists get our way!).

[tradclimbguy]

Geez, how hard does this have to be.

 

Just get a passport if you don't already have one and bring it. Problem solved, end of debate.

[cj001f]

Get a fucking passport and take it.

[stinkyclimber]

I agree. I know I carry one. But someone asked what the rules were. And passports are $100. Some people are cheap.

 

I speculate that you won't have to have a passport. But you might need a few MREs, a P-38 can-opener...and a tauntaun. Believe me, with a tauntaun, they won't be asking for no fucking passport.

[jmace]

The canadians are a** holes at the border...I have two passports a can. and and am. and I forgot the can. one and they told me that it was a privelege not a right that they let me back into canada..this was 3 weeks ago.

 

the post stinky posted is about coming home to USA what about entering Canada..? I think its 2007

[stinkyclimber]

There are no new rules proposed in terms of document requirements for entering Canada. As I said, passports are not 100% required, but they can ask for them.

 

My observation is that some (but not all!) border guards are assholes no matter the nationality. That is what happens when you give people a lot of power with very few limits or accountabilities.

[bstach]

Make sure you say 'eh' alot when you come through the border.

[LandShark]

Shit you guys are just lucky you don't have to deal with the Canuckians mandatory 2 week shark quarantine. What a pain in the ass!

[jmace]

yea, crazy thought it was 2007, nope 2009

 

thanks stink

 

[powderhound]

Is there a place where I can find all this info and more. I have been looking but one web sight will give info that another won't have.

 

Under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI)

 

The proposed implementation timeline has two phases:

 

Beginning January 23, 2007, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling by air between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda will be required to present a valid passport, Air NEXUS card, or U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner Document, or an Alien Registration Card, Form I-551, if applicable.

 

As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. While recent legislative changes permit a later deadline, the Departments of State and Homeland Security are working to meet all requirements as soon as possible. Ample advance notice will be provided to enable the public to obtain passports or passport cards for land/sea entries.

 

Here

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html