cliffhanger Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Without fuel, dying of thirst high on a snowy mountainside you have one source of heat that is tragically going to waste, your outgoing breath. Pack a widemouthed quart bottle full of snow. Poke a deep, wide hole in the middle of the snow. Insulate the bottle. Blow down the hole. Keep the snow packed on the sides in as broad a layer as possible. In 30 minutes or so you will have one cup of liquid water. Using a couple feet of 3/4" tubing makes routing the air more convenient. Just shove one tube into the bottom of the snow packed insulated bottle. Blow. Or use 2 tubes, with the tubes fitted thru a spare bottle cap. The 2nd tube is to route the expelled air out of your sleeping bag or parka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 That's a great first post captain factoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 What a FUN FACT. Did you read that on the back of a cereal box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 "Our vibrations were getting nasty--but why? Was there no communication in this car? Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?" -The Great Gonzo on a bright sunny day snow in a plastic bag inside a black stuff sack set out on a rock also works well and then you don't have to look like some freaky meth-head huffing his nalgene bottle for the flavonoid-high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 You could piss in the bottle too. Urine is warm. dean Potter probably does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Toss some snow in a black heft bag and poke a pinhole in a corner. Lay said bag across rock or pad to accelerate meltage. Hopefully I'll never be desperate enough to need the nalgene+hose combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kix Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Without fuel, dying of thirst high on a snowy mountainside you have ...... .. The 2nd tube is to route the expelled air out of your sleeping bag or parka. I will die rather than fart into my precious nalgene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 It is not uncommon for climbers on larger climbs in a place like Alaska running out of fuel and/or food. This sounds to me like a good idea that could actually help as I have read over and over again that if you eat snow for liquid, you lose more water in generating the heat to melt the snow than you get from it. It may not be all that simple, but this does sound like a way to use "free" heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 I have read over and over again that if you eat snow for liquid, you lose more water in generating the heat to melt the snow than you get from it. I have read numerous Nigerian banking scam offers, so they must be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Without fuel, dying of thirst high on a snowy mountainside you have ...... .. The 2nd tube is to route the expelled air out of your sleeping bag or parka. I will die rather than fart into my precious nalgene. heavens to betsy use the tubing you brought along as part of your Backcountry Enema Kit - New from Burton Gear this year! - for lifesaving and not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Without fuel, dying of thirst high on a snowy mountainside you have ...... .. The 2nd tube is to route the expelled air out of your sleeping bag or parka. I will die rather than fart into my precious nalgene. heavens to betsy use the tubing you brought along as part of your Backcountry Enema Kit - New from Burton Gear this year! - for lifesaving and not From Burton? Does it come complete with a heavy baggy camo print case to store it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 From Burton? Does it come complete with a heavy baggy camo print case to store it in? No, that's the Cabella's version you're thinking of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 nah dude...camo's the new black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleydude Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Close. While you do not lose water in generating heat to melt snow which you have eaten, the energy transfer does lower your body's temperature which increases the risk of hypothermia. The resulting caloric loss must be replenished with some form of nutrition or food source, which requires water to digest and transport throughout your body. This why eating snow or ice is not recommend to hydrate yourself unless necessary to keep you alive long enough for a rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Using that logic, if your body is overheated, or well heated, through exertion, eating snow would not only hydrate you it would cool you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 and what about the caloric loss when you breathe out warm air and breathe in cold air??? not to mention that water is a known diuretic. OMG!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleydude Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 DH: Quite true and not an issue if you can sustain physical activity. GS: Not much one can do about that except stop breathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Trippett Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 You could piss in the bottle too. Urine is warm. dean Potter probably does it. Dean Potter treats objects like women...... man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleydude Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 You could piss in the bottle too. Urine is warm. dean Potter probably does it. Indeed you can! I would recommend copious amounts of orange-flavored gatorade. Trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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