telemarker Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 I need to know what some of yous do to substitute junk food with healthier alternatives, and if you were able to stick to it, how did you do it. One chocolate chunk cookie for me quickly becomes like 10 or so within minutes. BTW, Back To Nature Oreo style cookies . So, what have you done to steel your will power and cut out the junk? What has been your substitute that isn't too bland? Quote
Johnny_Tuff Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 I find that doing something that makes me work way hard to be fit helps me avoid eating shite food. I'm pretty skinny anyway, but after coming home from kung fu all drenched in sweat and feeling like I'm gonna puke from whatever conditioning drills, I feel like I'm squandering all the effort if I go and pound half a pint of Ben & Jerry's, or get fries with my burger or whatever. Food (ha ha) for thought. Quote
G-spotter Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 don't buy it. then there will be nothing to eat at home but healthy food like horsecock and nuts . Quote
downfall Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 I agree with the don't buy it as I have no control if its in my house. I sub Macadamian nuts, Zone bars, and milk and sometimes a piece of candied ginger if I have it around. Another thing I've found is that brushing my teeth or drinking liquor helps (as long as your not drinking girly drinks). Quote
John Frieh Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 lcm and I buy sharkies by the box... you can get them at REI among other outdoor stores but if you buy them at whole foods in Portland (not sure if you guys have them in WA) by the box you get a 10% discount... Something else we do is buy cookies for diabetics (whole foods also has an excellent selection)... you'd be surprised how good they are! Finally my favorite snack food is dried fruit... bananas, prunes, mango, etc etc Great replacement and good for you! Quote
Ed_Hobbick Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Continue eating the cookies. Just bump up the calorie output a notch. Rice cakes are good with carmel on them. Quote
ivan Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 life's too short to eat shit that ain't tasty - i find my strict regime of ho-ho's n' ding-dongs really prepares me for the true bingng of candy barz n' fruit snax i bring in the alpine Quote
wessound Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 life's too short to eat shit that ain't tasty - i find my strict regime of ho-ho's n' ding-dongs really prepares me for the true bingng of candy barz n' fruit snax i bring in the alpine Dude, you have got the system that Myself I just have another and Quote
Distel32 Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 take up smoking, problem solved. I have always eaten pretty shitty food. I used to exercise a lot though and stayed skinny. I think if you exercise a fair amount you'll be ok. Plus if you can't eat tasty food, why eat at all? skinny is the new black Quote
archenemy Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 This may be true. However, it may also be true that eating poorly can have a cumulative, negative affect on your body and on your mind (if your body is out of whack, the chemicals/hormones in your brain don't level properly). Eating well now may make you much happier when you are ancient--you know, like forty years old or somewhere around that. Then again, smoking cigs and taking ephedra are good for you too Quote
G-spotter Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 skinny is the new black not new, been like that since biafra Quote
RuMR Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 This may be true. However, it may also be true that eating poorly can have a cumulative, negative affect on your body and on your mind (if your body is out of whack, the chemicals/hormones in your brain don't level properly). Eating well now may make you much happier when you are ancient--you know, like forty years old or somewhere around that. Then again, smoking cigs and taking ephedra are good for you too 40 is ancient? Great, i'll just go cap myself now... Quote
roboboy Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 switch to healthy foods and your hunger will be satisfied with less calories. when I look at junk food now I realize that it wont achieve my body's desire for nutrition and satisying hunger and I really have no desire for it, other than as a quick convenient fix after a climb. less refined foods with the correct balance of protein/carbohydrate/fat that take longer to break down are the best. it's easiest to get advise on what and how much rather than figure it out on your own, some health clubs can provide heathy diets as part of training sessions. it's also best to control eating with smaller portions eaten more frequently so that your body doesn't store excess calories. junk food is not designed to satisfy hunger, it mostly keeps you wanting to eat more with the wrong nutritional ratio (e.g., high fat) so your body ends up storing more. this also produces $ revenues for large industrial corporations. the downside is it is hard for many people to change their diet based on their situation, habits and prevailing american culture - good luck. Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Ditto... You basically have to change your habits and/or lifestyle. If you go to Jack in the Box, get a salad instead of the Jumbo Jack, if you cook at home use veggie oil and not lard (don't ask). There is a plethora of information online about different foods, but if you don't get off you butt and read a little and act then it doesn't really matter. Please refer to my signature line. Quote
Dustin_B Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I need to know what some of yous do to substitute junk food with healthier alternatives, and if you were able to stick to it, how did you do it. One chocolate chunk cookie for me quickly becomes like 10 or so within minutes. BTW, Back To Nature Oreo style cookies . So, what have you done to steel your will power and cut out the junk? What has been your substitute that isn't too bland? I cut a particular junk food out of my diet right after New Years. I went from having it twice a day to not at all (maybe 1 every other weekend now). Quit cold-turkey. I didn't replace it with anything. The craving is all in you mind. It was a real difficult for a few weeks and I was feeling hungry more often, but I fought through the urges. Now I don't miss it. Its like mental training for climbing or some shit. It was really difficult but I just keep reminding myself that it is all in your mind. A powerful mind leads to a powerful body right? (I'm still waiting for the poweful body by the way..) Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Oh due tell. What is this insidious food in which you have thrust into the wind? Quote
Ed_Hobbick Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Ditto... You basically have to change your habits and/or lifestyle. If you go to Jack in the Box, get a salad instead of the Jumbo Jack, if you cook at home use veggie oil and not lard (don't ask). There is a plethora of information online about different foods, but if you don't get off you butt and read a little and act then it doesn't really matter. Please refer to my signature line. Yeah, get off your ass John; do something.... Quote
archenemy Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 switch to healthy foods and your hunger will be satisfied with less calories. when I look at junk food now I realize that it wont achieve my body's desire for nutrition and satisying hunger and I really have no desire for it, other than as a quick convenient fix after a climb. less refined foods with the correct balance of protein/carbohydrate/fat that take longer to break down are the best. it's easiest to get advise on what and how much rather than figure it out on your own, some health clubs can provide heathy diets as part of training sessions. it's also best to control eating with smaller portions eaten more frequently so that your body doesn't store excess calories. junk food is not designed to satisfy hunger, it mostly keeps you wanting to eat more with the wrong nutritional ratio (e.g., high fat) so your body ends up storing more. this also produces $ revenues for large industrial corporations. the downside is it is hard for many people to change their diet based on their situation, habits and prevailing american culture - good luck. I agree with all this except the reasoning for eating smaller meals. There is no problem with your body storing the excess calories from a large meal, you just burn them off later as long as you do not exceed your overall proper daily caloric intake. It's good to experiment and find out what works with your own body. The small meals throughout the day thing doesn't always result in weight loss or even in lessening your craving for food... Quote
RuMR Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 I think the theory is that if you constantly snack while watching calories, you won't get famished and gorge yourself as in the three meal scenario...this then eliminates the mandatory finger down the throat hurl... Quote
roboboy Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 (edited) you just burn them off later as long as you do not exceed your overall proper daily caloric intake Agreed. Do a web search on "metabolic rate calculator", then count daily calorie intake for awhile until you arrive at daily menus that you like that match your individual metabolic rate. If you exercise that day you can eat more. You could also estimate exercise calories but this whole thing doesn't really have to be that exact to work. Edited March 9, 2006 by roboboy Quote
Johnny_Tuff Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 the mandatory finger down the throat hurl... You're so old-school, RuMR! Quote
willstrickland Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Sugar-free chewing gum. Seriously. Like Trident or something. Gives you the sensory stimulation without the cals. Seems like alot of people eat for entertainment/sensory stimulation rather than because they are actually feeling hunger pangs. Of course, for all you toothless meth addicts, this might not be the best solution. Quote
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