specialed Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 I use them to open beer bottles. That's about it. Good for anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregm Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 aid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Clipping your climbing shoes and chalk bag to the outside of your backpack so that everyone at Smith knows you're a rock climber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 aid  THAT IS THE BIGGEST MYTH IN CLIMBING  good technique is good for aid  ovals are good for nothing  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted February 13, 2003 Author Share Posted February 13, 2003 I've heard there good for bailing off of, but I've never done that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Oval 'biners are good for everything. They're strong and reliable. For aid, they're great because they don't flex and lock when weighted like many "D"s do. If you think yours are good for nothing, send them to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Oval 'biners are good for everything. They're strong and reliable. For aid, they're great because they don't flex and lock when weighted like many "D"s do. If you think yours are good for nothing, send them to me. Â SPIRITS AND WIREGATE ALL EXCEED OVALS STRENGTH WIREGATES AND SPIRITS DONT FLEX AND LOCK WHEN WEIGHTED Â AND THAT THING CALLED BINER SHIFT...IS ACTUALLY CALLED POOR TECHNIQUE....I KNOW THIS MICRO GUIDE THAT WILL SHOW YOU!! HA! Â I GUESS THEY ARE THE BEST FOR BINER BRAKE RAPPEL Â I GAVE ALL MINE AWAY?? ALONG WITH MY 'D'S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Simpkins Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 I use ovals at the end of my daisies during aid leading. All the webbing and stuff doesn't get bunched up like on a normal biner. They are also good for racking a set of chalks together, because the chalks can slide around easy and make sorting through them easier. Â I keep 4 of them. 2 for my chalks, 2 for aid climbing. If they weren't so heavy and blulky, I would carry more. They are very easy to clip and there is a lot of room inside for whatever. Easier to hold onto to also if you need to pull on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Ovals canbe very usefull in self rescue situations, much more so than a funcky D biner. The Gaurda knot comes to mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 SPIRITS AND WIREGATE ALL EXCEED OVALS STRENGTH WIREGATES AND SPIRITS DONT FLEX AND LOCK WHEN WEIGHTED Â AND THAT THING CALLED BINER SHIFT...IS ACTUALLY CALLED POOR TECHNIQUE....I KNOW THIS MICRO GUIDE THAT WILL SHOW YOU!! HA! Â I GUESS THEY ARE THE BEST FOR BINER BRAKE RAPPEL Â I GAVE ALL MINE AWAY?? ALONG WITH MY 'D'S erik, what are you screaming about? Just because another 'biner design is stronger than an oval doesn't negate the oval's value. With regard to some carabiner's gate key engaging under a body-weight load, it does happen. I've had it happen with wire-gate 'biners and shaped 'biners. But I've never experienced it with old-skool chouinard ovals. And I never mentioned "BINER SHIFT". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 sorry bout the caps thing...it is mostly old people who seem to have an issue with it! ha! Â i dont like em and i dont own em. thats my opinion and that is it. use your oval!! and love your ovals!! Â bone. enough about the rescue we already know!! Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 round stock locking oval is the best biner i have found that works as brake biner in the reverso. Â other than that i like them for aid too... erik is being pretentious, some of us like'em...its like using a figure 8 to tie in instead of a clove hitch bowline... or double fisherman insteadof EDK...people who say one is always better are usually frustrated guide wanna bes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CascadeClimber Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 round stock locking oval is the best biner i have found that works as brake biner in the reverso. Â Which make/model are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 its a kong...i got it for 4 bucks somewhere...it also works well with those plastic Petzl emergency pulleys for glacier travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelle Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 . They are also good for racking a set of chalks together, because the chalks can slide around easy and make sorting through them easier. Â Try keeping your chalks, nuts, hexes on spirits. They won't get hung up on the gate when you unclip them. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CascadeClimber Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Try keeping your chalks, nuts, hexes on spirits. They won't get hung up on the gate when you unclip them. Â I have a couple of older Kong keylock ovals that I use for chocks- they work great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelle Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Try keeping your chalks, nuts, hexes on spirits. They won't get hung up on the gate when you unclip them. Â I have a couple of older Kong keylock ovals that I use for chocks- they work great. Â Not suprising since Kong invented that style gate. They're just harder to find in the shops than Petzl's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Damn, I've already retired my old euro coathanger ice screws to keep from being ridiculed by you all, and now you're telling me I've got to discard my 20 year old Eiger ovals? What's next, I'm going to have to trade in my Pivetta Red Spiders for some new fangled galoshes type kletterschue just to remain fashionable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 I like them for tripling up tied webbing runners into quickdraws. They seem to untangle easier with an oval than a wiregate D. I do like the look of those Omega Pacific D'ovals, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Fuck you, you anti oval people. Â They were good enough for me when I started climbing, and they are just fine now. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 In addition to being perfectly functional for climbing, better for use as carabiner breaks, and arguably better for carbiner-chains in aid climbing, they DO make good beer openers, though, don't they? Any piece of gear that serves more than one purpose is OK in my book. I just don't carry them on my rack very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 bone. enough about the rescue we already know!! Â ya know erik, not everybody knows as much about climbing as you do...specialmacatuion asked a question, I gave a simple answer...it's not like I wrote a whole essay on it...why are you such a prick sometimes? Â I also use ovals for those lite weight orange plastic Petzl pully things that slip on a Biner, they don't work on D's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 please keep in mind that I am NOT the gear head in the family I have an oval of my verry own that I keep on my shoes in hopes that I will remember to biner my hiking shoes to my harness on a multi pitch climb unfortunatly my little trick to remind myslf does not always work. We also have a cupple of ovals that have the Nutz racked on them. I like 'em that way seems to work for me. And no I am not going to go out nad buy 30$ bieners because they are cooler I will use what I have until I can't use it any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 I agree with the stuff on rescue, brakes and orange petzl pulley things. Â Symmetry is a wonderful thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 I love my ovals! They are hard working, hard wearing and cheap! Plus, nobody else uses them so I always get mine back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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