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Obviously, you guys don't know anything about how ice climbing plays into combat, espionage, and intrigue (not to mention Hollywood). Why, just one glance at the link below will certainly elucidate the need for this cross-training of our elite military corps of climbers, and anyone not in agreement with this relationship must clearly be against us! Get schooled! :laf:

Ouch! Tough it out and save the meds for later.

:laf: Now that's funny!

You talk to Alex K yet? He's got a sled, and righteous beta.

I put up some routes out there years and years ago with Bill Robins. I could probably tell you how to get there (which any guidebook could), but I doubt I'd be able to find any of the routes we did. You could try sending a PM to Paul Certa on this site. Or find him at Frenchman Coulee Climbers Coalition on yahoo groups. He was Bill's bestest friend. He might have the righteous beta. Here's his bio, but he hasn't posted here since 2004. Don't know if his email addy is still current. Looking for him on yahoo groups at FCCC is your best bet. Rumor has it that the Potholes has been closed for quite some time now. Don' know why.

West of Yakima, on the way to White Pass. Take US 12/SR 410 through Naches, and about 4 miles west of that, the highway splits. SR 410 goes to Chinook Pass if you go straight. US 12 goes to White Pass if you take the left. After taking the left onto US 12, go less than 2 miles, and park at the bike rack on the left side of the road, and look up. The Oak Creek Game Station is on the right side of the road. You need a parking sticker if you park in their lot, or it's a $66 fine. You get the sticker when you buy a hunting or fishing license. You can also buy it w/o getting the license for about $10-$12. The ratings at RC are stiff for the grade. There's lots of TRs in this site, and much discussion about the ratings. Search.

All the beta for the approach is in Alex's and Jason's guidebook that came out about 3 years ago or so. I've been in there plenty of times myself when I used to live in Yakivegas, and there are really only three ways to go in and not spend a day in the doing, depending upon which end of the cliff you want to end up at. Read about it here. With the snow the way it is now, AlpineMonkey has the timeline down... it's about three hours one way on foot. And I've always gone in on foot. Sometimes skis, sometimes snowsoes, sometimes I just booted it in. Depends. If you're headed to the Septum/Split Rock Camp area, take skis, cuz you can rip it up for a little ways from the cliff base down to the trail that leads to the beaver dam crossing. Then when you hit the road, put 'em back on, and you're down in minutes!

This one... :laf:

WOW! I feel the love here.

Yeah, Stall 146... Did he change into a pair a stinky new Dockers?

Shite, Kat! I'm really sorry to hear about that. What's the prognosis? If I may be so bold as to ask... what happened? PM if you want to.

This is a great thread. Where's E-rock??

MD, Thank you so much for that reply/info. I'll be checking into them.

Interesting concept. My former partner (before he got with kids and all) and I used to go back and forth when it came time to bail. Neither wanted to be "the first" to bail. Typical conversation: Partner: The fill in whatever natural phenomena happen to be most pertinent at the time looks sick. We should really think about bailing. Me: I'm not gonna bail. You wanna bail? Partner: I'm not gonna bail. You wanna bail? Me: I'm not gonna bail. ad nauseum It's a wonder neither of us ever got deaded!

...or setting up tarps for slideshows! Glad to hear how much things have improved for you, Kurt. Carry on!

Again, pure eloquence. Friction bougars are great!

Just not Lincolns...

But think, Pax, to a not too distant future, where only The Almighty Dollar reigns, and you are a major stockholder in Monsanto/ADM/whoever. Some countries will have lots of money with which to feed their hungry; others will not. To which country will you sell your wares? While I can appreciate your statements regarding the susceptibility of our nations, and the world's as a whole, agricultural products and industries, you must admit that my scenario cannot be discounted.

Unless you strap a piece of toast with jam on their back.

I share that worry. When all the "family-owned" farms are gone and all held by private corporations, who then decides who eats and who starves?

Nope, we haven't. This stuff hasn't been around long enough to do that sort of study to a large degree. And there's the rub, I guess, for most people.

You're shitting us right? They've got staff for that? I guess this sort of shite might not be that far off for us out here, given the latest Hood falderal.

It's a "sticky" in the Climber's Board forum. Here.

You mean that's NOT how the NFL draft works??

I'd like to be able to clone myself. That way, I could leave my clone here at work to sit and do nothing except spray, and I could go out climbing. Or drinking. Or whoring. Or whatever. It'd be like having my own Beta-unit!