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"Heads it's Betty, tails it's Veronica." 8D

Checking in at Spray, I find out that you weren't the responsible party. That makes it even funnier!

arch- I like your new avatar pic. Location's cute, too...

Strobach is never my "first choice" for a day trip. Given the approach time and the slogging required after leaving the road (usually), it is best to consider this area as "overnight camping mandatory" if you expect to get any real amount of ground covered. Unless you're a real PNW hardman and you hit the trail at 0300 hrs. and return within 24 hours later, having eaten nothing other than cold MREs.

Mike, c'mon! You've been around this site long enough to know about the Search function. Most recent discussion of life insurance Related discussion: Disability insurance

De nada. Good luck!

Sign up for this site, maybe?? How much ya wanna spend to find out what you don't wanna know?

IIRC, Alex is talking about the "middle approach option" that I mentioned above that crosses a beaver dam a ways after leaving the groomed road. Skis are kind of a bitch to get through the brush, as Dannible noted above, but you'll appreciate having them for the return, especially for the turns right below the cliff and back to the woods.

Yo, quit it! I'm dyin' he-ah! :laf:

That's classic!

Need a fork for that piece of humble pie...?

Obviously, you guys don't know anything about how ice climbing plays into combat, espionage, and intrigue (not to mention Hollywood). Why, just one glance at the link below will certainly elucidate the need for this cross-training of our elite military corps of climbers, and anyone not in agreement with this relationship must clearly be against us! Get schooled! :laf:

Ouch! Tough it out and save the meds for later.

:laf: Now that's funny!

You talk to Alex K yet? He's got a sled, and righteous beta.

I put up some routes out there years and years ago with Bill Robins. I could probably tell you how to get there (which any guidebook could), but I doubt I'd be able to find any of the routes we did. You could try sending a PM to Paul Certa on this site. Or find him at Frenchman Coulee Climbers Coalition on yahoo groups. He was Bill's bestest friend. He might have the righteous beta. Here's his bio, but he hasn't posted here since 2004. Don't know if his email addy is still current. Looking for him on yahoo groups at FCCC is your best bet. Rumor has it that the Potholes has been closed for quite some time now. Don' know why.

West of Yakima, on the way to White Pass. Take US 12/SR 410 through Naches, and about 4 miles west of that, the highway splits. SR 410 goes to Chinook Pass if you go straight. US 12 goes to White Pass if you take the left. After taking the left onto US 12, go less than 2 miles, and park at the bike rack on the left side of the road, and look up. The Oak Creek Game Station is on the right side of the road. You need a parking sticker if you park in their lot, or it's a $66 fine. You get the sticker when you buy a hunting or fishing license. You can also buy it w/o getting the license for about $10-$12. The ratings at RC are stiff for the grade. There's lots of TRs in this site, and much discussion about the ratings. Search.

All the beta for the approach is in Alex's and Jason's guidebook that came out about 3 years ago or so. I've been in there plenty of times myself when I used to live in Yakivegas, and there are really only three ways to go in and not spend a day in the doing, depending upon which end of the cliff you want to end up at. Read about it here. With the snow the way it is now, AlpineMonkey has the timeline down... it's about three hours one way on foot. And I've always gone in on foot. Sometimes skis, sometimes snowsoes, sometimes I just booted it in. Depends. If you're headed to the Septum/Split Rock Camp area, take skis, cuz you can rip it up for a little ways from the cliff base down to the trail that leads to the beaver dam crossing. Then when you hit the road, put 'em back on, and you're down in minutes!

This one... :laf:

WOW! I feel the love here.

Yeah, Stall 146... Did he change into a pair a stinky new Dockers?

Shite, Kat! I'm really sorry to hear about that. What's the prognosis? If I may be so bold as to ask... what happened? PM if you want to.

This is a great thread. Where's E-rock??

MD, Thank you so much for that reply/info. I'll be checking into them.