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Bala, It's high 40s in Dayton right now, forecasted to be high 30s through next week. Given that Bluewood is a bit higher than Dayton, I'd say the temps would be in the low to mid-30s at best. Not low enough IMO to warrant a trip from Pullman to Bluewood. If anything is still up, I'm sure it's running water now.

Look likes you could haul quite a lot of smoke in that puppy...

For minx...

Searched icanhascheezburger.com for "lolcats tinfoil hats" and got this: Lolcats serched 4 ur wurdz Waaaah? Nothin Found? Sry, but these r not the searches u r looking for. Bummer, d00d... Someone with more skilz than I needs to use the LOLCAT BUILDER and make one...

Yeah, like I expected nothing more in a response from you. Cheeri-o, old chap!

Chin up, man! Maybe's he's finally caught a current and he's too busy to write?

Oh shit, Mel, that made my evening! Especially liked the kitten by the woodpile, when he tried to walk across the cacti. And the toddler that gets mugged while strolling through the garden. Priceless!

That was well done by the shop owner. Especially liked the part about "...a gay little punch. Here it comes... wait for it... Oooo!"

Have you priced out the NOLS WMI WFA/AWFA course? It's prix fixe no matter how many bodies you can drum up. We usually get about 25-30 folks every two years to pony up and split the cost. YMMV

Sherri, Maybe you should go ahead and re-shoot that stair railing photo and put the scale in there, as you opined in your PM. Perhaps that might sate DeC and cease his insinuations of code infractions, eh? Sorry to hear about the passing in your family. I hope you start feeling better soon. :kisss:

Well thanx Dru, that was a really introspective post. Do you ever pause long enough to ponder the fact that perhaps there are those of us that have more important things in our lives to think about other than what DWR treatment we purchase? I have to tell you, that one hasn't been very high on my priority list lately. Things like how to pay the $3700 ER bill for fishing a quarter out of my daughters esophagus, what to do with a much-loved one-eyed cat that is now going blind in his remaining eye, and how to make my marriage better seem to be occupying my thoughts right now. But please, do carry on.

Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit! All of this praise heaped upon ReviveX has caused me to rethink my DWR re-treatment priorities. And to think that all I thought was available in the land was Nikwax. How blind I have been not to realize that there are those on this board who are so wise in the ways of science.

Hey, that's my girl... how'd she get over there? Pretty scary, all that karma coming back to us in another 10 years or so. And I got 2 beauties that can't keep clothes on for more than 5 minutes. Waitasecond! That's my daughter! Can't keep her underwear on her to save her 3-year-old life! And she's, shall we say, "spirited"... I think that's just her mother's way of saying she's stubborn, hard-headed, and won't listen to a goddamn word Daddy says! My boy (5 yoa), OTOH, is gonna have some girlfriends. The little shit can lick his nose... easily! Yeah, he's going to be popular with the ladies...

I just wanna know WTF a "fixie" is. Contextual reference would seem to indicate a single speed bicycle...

I'm no chemist (where is CBS when you need him?), but my understanding is that if it contains phosphates, it's definitely a detergent. If it doesn't contain phosphates, it is not a detergent. Phosphate-free = non-detergent. Detergents remove dirt by breaking the surface tension between the water and the garment. Chemicals that do this are known as surfactants. They are also responsible for the loss of the "beading effect" on your GTX garments. Nikwax apparently cleans your GTX without the use of surfactants, but I don't know exactly how. I just know I love the stuff, but I, too, agree that it's way too fawkin' expensive.

And it is because you live in this country that you are free to say that. And I am free to say this: "You're an ass." v7/j7, if you hate it here so much, then do something positive to change it to your liking. Or just STFU and leave. Or just STFU and stay. Or just STFU.

tattooed That sort of tattoo has many names, but my favorite hails from the northeast: Ass Antlers So do guys back East ask each other, "How many points does she have?"

That's all well and good, Mike, if the consumer has the understanding that they need this additional information. It goes back to leading horses to water... I vehemently disagree with you. By extension of your logic, are you saying that the shop owner that sold the snowboards to the three kids that got killed in the Crystal Mountain BC is somehow to blame for their deaths? I thought not... It would be great if folks would take the time to listen/watch, but who watches local broadcast TV weather reports anymore anyway, besides the work-a-day commuter? "Mountain savvy" folks get their beta elsewhere, like NWAC, CSAC, NOAA, etc., NOT KOMO or KING-5. More horses and water... Probably none, except that (IMO) the people that are most in need of this information wouldn't pay any attention to it anyway. Again, equines and troughs. You want my personal opinion? I suspect that the people getting the chop in the BC are folks that watched a few too many Warren Miller films or X-Game broadcasts, and fall into the "insta-grat" (thanks for the term, dmuja) category of fun-seekers that believe there is no preparation/education requirement beyond having the financial resources to purchase the equipment before being entitled to that fun they seek. "It's out there waiting for me to enjoy it, therefore I should just go get some" sort of mentality. No belief whatsoever that they need to educate themselves of the subjective and objective dangers of their chosen activity. Read that as No Personal Responsibility. A quick perusal of any issue of ANAM would indicate that there are extremely few accidents that aren't caused by the parties themselves. I just finished ANAM 2006, and there are only two or three (reported) cases of "unfortunate position" or "falling rock" (not human-caused), where the people did everything right and still got caught. The point? The point is that folks cause almost all of the bad things that happen to them (or others) in the mountains. Self-instigated education is the key, not warning labels or holding shop owners accountable. Finally, lest you think I'm being all high and mighty, if/when I get the chop, you all can postulate/speculate as to how stoo-pid I was in doing whatever it was that got me killed. I won't mind, because odds will be that I brought it upon myself anyway.

Does this apply to the NWAC Web site? If not, why would putting the same information in the hands of more people via news casts or other outlets offend your sensibilities? No, Daniel, it does not apply to NWAC or CSAC. I was referring specifically to warning labels pasted onto products/contained within product literature. This practice of attempting to protect the public from injuring or killing itself through its own stupidity (read: Social Darwinism) has so confounded me over the years that I now find it nigh incomprehensible. To think that a particular manufacturer of a product (any product) must now devine the myriad methods by which one may kill or maim themselves whilst using that particular manufacturer's product, and then be held financially responsible for the consumer's death/dismemberment because the manufacturer didn't provide a warning for that particular form of demise, is unconscionable to me. Where has the "ethic" of personal responsibility gone?

If I see one more stoo-pid warning label ANYWHERE, I'm gonna fill my trousers with my own shite! I appreciate what you're trying to accomplish by your suggestions, Mikester, but as HC says, it just can't be dumbed down any further/made any easier for the masses. Contained within the literature of my last avalanche beacon purchase: WARNING - Wearing this device will not prevent avalanches! Christ, how stupid do they think people are? Pretty stupid, I guess...

I apparently dumped that link when I changed computers a few months back. Googling hasn't brought it back up yet. I have a message into a friend that looks at data like this, to see if he can provide me the link. If he can, I'll post it here. Put this thread into your Watched Topics bin.

That's classic! I'm going to have to remember that when my kids "come of age" and start asking about getting a tat.

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Hey, who's that in the hot tub with my wife???

Hey, Bug, it's MORE THAN ENOUGH to know that you're healthy, buddy. I told my doctor "The least you can do is tell me you love me" I think they get that one alot, though. Had my second one a coupla months back. "Geez, Doc, ya got your whole arm in there?!" BTW, I'm healthy, too. Thanks for asking.