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OK, I'll agree that getting off yer ass and outta the house does get extra points.

I ain't talkin' 'bout the 'merkan made shite. I'm talkin' 'bout the 'talian made stuff. Besides, wiki say dat dere ain't no trans fat in the NA version. I read it on da interwebz; it's gotta be true!

You people are sooooooooo lost. This is where it's at:

Wouldn't it just have been easier for Kirk and Spock to jump through the rock doughnut behind Bones and then fix your fuck-up before you fucked up? I'm just sayin'...

...I would like to take this small moment to wish all of you much peace in your lives, unfailing grace towards others, and heart-felt fellowship with the human race. Now go piss off and eat yer damned burnt, tryptophan-laden bird and open yer fuckin' presents! Oh yeah... Happy Ramahannakwanzmas!

Relax, TT, Dru still has it. Product testing, ya know...

Lotsa people on this board are Mounties. Lotsa people on this board will shit all over the Mounties. Several Mounties will shit all over themselves for being part of the Mounties. It's all a matter of perspective. That being said, I've never been a Mountie, but I hear that it's a decent place to meet some folks, but prolly not the best place from where you'd wanna take your instruction. Given the experience that you have, it'd prolly be OK just to put an ad in the Climbing Partners forum to chum the waters and see what happens. Sometimes you have to be more persistent to hook up, rather than just throwing a hook and bait out there. There's plenty of folks here that'll take you out, no problems.

We only use 10 per cent of our brains: Rising to fame at the turn of the last century, the statement has been erroneously attributed to Albert Einstein. Various studies have since concluded that no part of the brain is ever completely dormant. Unless you post regularly on cc.com...

Priceless! You have a future in television advertising.

TREETOAD "found" it last week: 12th post down from the top of the page... Gotta admit though, they do have the marketing one-liner down to a fine art. I bet there's a lot of Nervous Nellie's out there lining up to buy it for their Weekend Warrior SO's for Christmas. The next logical step, from their advertising agency's POV, is to put their TV ad up immediately following the next Mt. Hood/Mt. Rainier/Crystal Mountain tradegy. That'll be sure to increase publicity and $ale$...

Kirk Reiser's body was recovered Friday afternoon, December 21, at the base of Edith Creek falls under about 8 feet of snow. He was still wearing his pack. About 3 dozen or so Mountain Rescue folks from Central Washington, Olympic, Tacoma, Seattle, Snohomish, Everett, and I believe 1 or 2 folks from Bellingham MR assisted the NPS in the probe search. My sincerest condolences to his family and friends.

Kirk Reiser's body was recovered Friday afternoon, December 21, at the base of Edith Creek falls under about 8 feet of snow. He was still wearing his pack. About 3 dozen or so Mountain Rescue folks from Central Washington, Olympic, Tacoma, Seattle, Snohomish, Everett, and I believe 1 or 2 folks from Bellingham MR assisted the NPS in the probe search. My sincerest condolences to his family and friends.

"Ah say, Ah say go away son, ya bother me."

See previous response.

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Careful, minx, his location is Sly Bacon. He could be sneakin' up on your avatar for a little piggie pokin'...

I covered that already in the Sexual Deviancy thread.

I'm going to assume it's a bored bitch troll, but I'll bite anyway... ILS, to answer your question, I shall pose one for you, to wit: Let's say you're thinking about making a hefty expenditure on a piece of gear, and you're not quite sure if it's the right choice, and if it isn't the right choice then you certainly don't want to be saddled with for the rest of your climbing life - what would you do? Would you buy it from an "all sales final" type outlet, or would you "rent" it from REI? I think you get my point...

Way to go, carolyn, for draggin' up this classic! I don't know, Kurt, there's lots of SAR/MR folks up there right now. You'd prolly get dug out pretty darn quick.

silly porter, the price doesn't evolve because the garments are intelligently designed Now that's fuckin' funny, and I don't care who ya are. Jeezus H Christ, vertical hiker quit two days ago and this thread is still going strong? What is it, 39 freakin' pages now? This has surpassed the Fat Housecat thread in a week, and is rapidly closing in on the Nodder, Mt. Hood deaths, and Muir on Saturday threads! What hath Dog wrought?

I remember when you were the Couchmaster. I thought that was great. I'm not sure, Bill, but I think everybody lost their "pet" names with the last upgrade. Same thing happened with the upgrade before this most recent one; peeps lost their names and the little "the horns/love you/donate" fist. I don't think anyone's pissed at you. You could probably pretty easily convince a mod to give you your name back.

SWAL: I don't know those folks on the other side of those links from Adam, but they appear to have the right curriculum and mindset. I'd be OK with taking a course from them, but they *are* sorta "out of town..." But you can get a similarly adequate level of instruction by taking the National Ski Patrol's Level 1 avalanche awareness course, which is taught to the same standard as these AAA guys' course. I got my schoolin' from the NSP. Good luck, I hope you take the course somewhere.

Only climbed it twice, both times in late May/early June. Piece of cake, although that depends if you like "swimming" through powder snow up to your armpits and short-roping two other disabled parties to the summit with you (that was just the first trip). That said, it was first ascended over Labor Day in 1935. Totally different conditions, I would imagine. Most people do LR, as well as other glacier crossing work, in 2-person parties. Not a big deal if you know how to work a 2-member party crevasse extraction. YMMV. Plan ahead, be prepared, know when/if to bail. Lotsa folks on this board have climbed LR, some several times. Shit, I think mattp soloed it, too. You should be hearing from these folks soon.

If you make it to the Red Rock Rendevous in March, you should be able to catch a couple self-rescue clinics there, too. The one I took last year, "The Fine Art of Bailing," was pretty helpful, and I plan to take more of the same this year. Easy to forget all that stuff if you're not using it everyday. Sherri makes excellent points in her post on the preceding page referencing the Fasulo book and here for the clinics. While reading/practicing techniques shown in books is nice, and likewise with attending specialized clinics, all this learning is for naught if one fails to practice these techniques somewhat frequently, as Sherri intuits above. I've been doing this gig for over 20 years now, and I still find I have to practice self-rescue at least once a year just to be sure I don't "flunk the course" on that one day when the grade is Pass/Fail.