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Kevin, I think KingsMM knows the climbs are not in. What I gathered he was looking for was a weather/temperature indicator that he could monitor (without committing to actually *going* to the climbs) to determine the likelihood of when the climbs *would* be in. There was a site that I used to have bookmarked that monitored the max/min temps at the NFS campgrounds and kept an archive so you could look back a few days/weeks for the temp trends. It was an information source that proved reliable enough for me to make the trek up in there and usually resulted in climbable ice.

That's why I didn't even start my run until right below the Gates. I don't have the kind of skill required for running the Gates in my AT set-up.

:lmao: Post of the Year thus far! Priceless! I bookmarked the link. Something tells me it'll come in handy around here again someday... BTW, skied the SS route in AT gear from just below the Pearly Gates over President's Day a few years back. It'll go. Just don't fall, it's a long cartwheel to the crater.

Good lord, King, you really dredged the bottom of the barrel to drag this one up, eh? What, this thread dead for almost four years? Check the temps at the NFS website for the campgrounds up Chinook Pass way. Sawmill Flats is the one I usually use. If I can find the link, I'll post it.

I pulled the NW ridge of Sac in April about 10 years ago. I had just returned from a month of ice climbing in Alaska, and was pretty honed. The weather was great on the ski in from Hurricane, but it turned into a hurricane (no pun intended) on summit day. What a ride that was! Still remember that trip as the most fun I've had in the Wallowas, bar none. After a bit of searching the archives, I found it!

I've been into the GRWA many times when I used to live in Crackima. September thru October is a wonderful time to be in there, as jaee previously mentioned, and for exactly those reasons. You'll have a great time. There's generally a pretty good fall weather window from Labor Day to about mid-October or so (Indian Summer). At least, that's been my repeated experience over the past 10 years or so... YMMV.

Clearly, the missing comma adds clarity, but the sentence remains sensical sans the comma.

From the other posts upthread, I gather he's referring to the tricky bit about getting onto the toe of the ridge from the Carbon, as evidenced here: Yeah, I recall having to do some sketchy bouldering moves on crappy rock to gain the toe of the ridge.

Arch: Agreed he could have deleted the comma and the sentence remains valid. Alternatively, he could have added a comma after the clause or "...or pokes fun at,..." But I did not critique punctuation, if you read my reply ^^ again. Crux: You are mistaken. Changing the word "to" to "with" is incongruous with the meaning of the verb "equating". One equates something to something else. One does not equate something with something else. Look at it this way: the word "to" in this context functions as an " = " sign. The word "with" implies addition ( + ), which is not what JayB is implying here: Why are you equating someone who refuses to honor, or pokes fun at a particular set of taboos associated with a set of religious convictions that he does not share = a group of people who attempted to carry out the wholesale extermination of a people sharing a common ancestry? The sentence structure is fine as is. Class dismissed.

The sentence is grammatically and diagrammetrically correct, kev. Subject and verb, the rest are modifiers. It's simple 8th grade sentence construction.

Calling ivan... ivan?? Is there an ivan here?

Show-and-Tell Sherri, Check your PMs.

So is she a stalker, a cougar, or what? Enquiring minds want to know...

That's some really bitchin' work there, Sherri. But I'm a bit concerned that your vertical rails don't pass the UBC's 4-inch sphere test...

Excellent! At least you got on some. That's more than I got this holiday season...

Nice job on the christmas lights, O_W. BTW, did you get any of those cliffs in the background of the second pic?

YEA!!!1 Chow down, Yosh!

Jes lookin' out fer ya, Honey chil' :kisss:

Sherri, you be careful, Darlin'. They've done studies on that thar bone conduction thang. You should get yerself one of these just to be safe...

Oh man, Mel, I'm sorry to hear this. Has he started eating again yet?

OK, my question from your post in the Partners forum has been answered. Same statement I made there applies here.

What's in at Vantage, Kevin? I can't get a penis pass for tomorrow, but if the weather stays cold this week, I could be up for something close to the road on NYD and/or next w/e.

Kevin, 1. Drive out to the Umptanum and see if Umptanum Falls is in. 2. Then drive over to Cliffdell and head up Highway 410 to FR 19 and see if Horsetail Falls is in. 3. Drive further up 410 towards Chinook Pass and see if Union Creek Falls is in. 4. Then drive just a bit further up and hike up to Mesatchee Creek Falls and see if it is in. 5. On your way back home, head up Highway 12 towards White Pass until you get on the far side of the tunnel, then look to the east and see if Strobach is in (take a telescope/binocs to check it out from the road). 6. Drive almost all the way to White Pass and check out Clear Creek falls, just before Dog Lake, to see if it is in. Then come back to this thread and post what you found. That should pretty much fill up your weekend. Plus, it will save me the time of deciding where to go next w/e. Happy New Year!

Happy Birthday, Brian!

Ditto, I thought the same thing.