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Two things. quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Hmm lemme see :Some people are assholes enought that they deserve all hostility I can possible brew up. Plus some more. -CPT So, by your own logic, you (an asshole, verify-able by nearly all on cc.com) deserve all hostility (being moderated and or booted) that may be brewed up. Hmm, truth hurts, huh? quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Hmm lemme see :You can say what you want Erik but shit is moderated on a basis of whether or not you are liked by someone else period. -CPT I think what this comes down to is a moderator is willing to put up with some abberations from everyone, but when someone continually spews worthless shit, they get cut off. IMHO, you should have been booted a long time ago, butthats why I'm not a moderator of cc.com dave brannon

12/13/01 As of December 13, 2001. The Ouray Ice Park is open for 2001/2002. The new South Park Climbs all saw first ascents this morning. The upper gorge is in great shape but the lower gorge needs one more week of water. Temps are cold (Daytime highs of 15 degrees and nightime lows of -5 below.) The climbing will be getting better and better over the next week. Most of the climbs surrounding Ouray have come in. Climbing in the skylight area is great right now. All of the climbs are in and the ice is thicker than usual. The Ribbon and Birdbrain are not in. After 2-4 feet of new snow on Thanksgiving many new smears and unclimbed routes are appearing on Southern aspects. Avalanche condition in Ouray remain Considerable particularly on Northern and Northeastern facing slopes. High winds and 6-12 inches of new snow friday along with cold temperatures are not allowing the snowpack to stabilize. In Eureka Stairway to Heaven is in. The first pitch of Whorehouse Hose is in but the second ramp is unclimbable. The ice is in great condition on both climbs. All other Eureka climbs are in. South Mineral most climbs are in but have lengthy approaches. The 14 new climbs in the South Park area are forming up nicely.Gravity's Rainbow, Kennedy's and Horsetail are in but thin. Dexter Slabs is in. In Telluride - Ames Fall is in. Ames Ice Hose is in with a thin first pitch. Bridal Veil Falls is formed. This message will be updated daily and weekly depending on if I'm climbing or not. Thanks for your patience with our website. Erin Eddy, President, Ouray Ice Park Inc.

"bigot" "racist" Give me a break. These guys aren't. Look back through their posts (especially l.b's) and you'll eat your words (or else maybe YOU'LL just close your eyes! And even if someone does make generalizations about particular nationalities, isn't it possible they are GENERALLY true? Do we throw out statistics 'cause they're "not nice". "Those statisitcs make me feel bad... I want cuddly bear... WAAAAAA!" Give me a break. And even if they're not true, you can't say Americans don't get shit-on generalizations too. I say it's a rough world, buck up! If you can't handle some lip from somebody, you're probably not cut out to be a world traveler/climber. The idea of being able to climb el cap and not being able to handle being labeled/generalized/sterotyped is silly!

My opinion: 1. If your primarily interested in sliding, get the at boots. Plastic mountaineering boots suck for control and comfort. They just don't mold the foot well enough. 2. If you interested in using as approach for climbs, MAYBE get plastic mountaineering boots. I say maybe since if you already have a pair of beefy leather climbing boots, use those for approaches. This hints at my bias towards good leather climbing boots, but the jist of the story is that plastic boots suck for skiing in, and I don't think they're that great for most climbing situations! Bottom line: Unless you plan on a serious amount of snow slogging or doing something BIG and COLD, skip the plastics and go for AT boots. PS: good call on the at gear! telemark: french for "snob" max

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even though the link I've pasted above might look like it doesn't wok, it does. so try it.

ACT QUICK! Sierra Trading post has Silvretta 404's (I think....) for 200 even. GOOD DEAL! I just got their catalouge yesterday, so they still have them. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/product.asp?base%5Fno=71930&str%5Fbase%5Fno=71507%2C71509%2C71620%2C71622%2C71626%2C71629%2C71630%2C71918%2C71923%2C71927%2C71928%2C71929%2C71930%2 C72100%2C72101%2C72102%2C72103%2C72201%2C72206%2C72302%2C&header%5Ftitle=&page%5Fname=prod%5Flist%5Fdisplay%2Easp&search%5Ftype=L1%7E365&size1=&size2=&gender=0&ShowImages=yes&sq=80 &cont=1&intPgNo=5&mscssid=797C37N9SW129JUN550RS56KN8H3D1S0. Now all you anti-AT people out there, just hold the lip! All I want to say is I've had great sucsess with AT and the setup works well for mountainerring and ice. I can't vouch for the 404's, but I can say their next ones up.. I think the EZ-go's work great. max

Alright. I'm retarded. http://9news.com/newsroom/13910.html

http://www.csac.org/Incidents/1999-00/19991218-Colo.html From what I've heard, this guy was in the Yankee Doodle Lakes area. I've been told it's an "only ski it in the spring" type of place. You've been there?

Jayb: Went up to Butler's Gulch a.k.a. ButtCrack today. Sweet foot deep powder, not TOO many people, and AWESOME bluebird skies! We skiied up to a little peak at the head of butler's, droppped down, then came back for another half run. Good stuff. We started to do a Rucshblock on the left side of the draw, but desided we'd seen all we need to know when it collapsed before we even finish diggin it! Luckly, it seems like there's enough low angle and tree runs to still safely ski there. Awesome day! I-70 was a bit of nut-house, but who cares!

quote: Originally posted by Wallstein: I think the key to performing on such physically demanding climbs is eating the correct foods and consuming enough calories. I am a real believer in gu after doing numerous routes where that was my main food intake for over 2 days. I could see my partners bonking when they were low on fuel. This caused them to not only move slower but to have a much more negative attitude. I think mental conditioning is also very important to suceeding on long hard climbs. Mental conditioning started for me at a young age when I would procrastinate so much that I would be up all night doing my homework. I like. Food is good! A did a little climbing with another guy on this board. Watching him, I realized how much better a trip is with good food. So we always stoppped at the IGA (?) in Squamish and picked up chocolate crossaints and pizza bagels! And on more adventurous alpine trips, keeping good snack food around has made me much happier and made me perform much better! Homework! yeah, there's nothing like finishing up a brutal night in the lab at 2 am, staggering home or to the bars, and remenicing of vector spaces and the euclidian norm over a few drinks! Love it! Masocism at its best!

quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: ... as is the farmed ice in Boulder canyon... Ix-neh. THe Boulder Creek irrigation ditches are fixed. No more "spilled" ice. Crap!

There he goes, takin' it personally again. Jeez!

I once climbed Mt. Baker with the sole sustinance of one box of Little Debbie Fudge Dipped Granola Bars. On the summit I found what I think was a Baby Ruth (like in Caddy Shack...), which I promptly gobbled. Did a nonspot (oooo!!! AHHH!! (sarcasm)) of the Fisher Chimneys with a friend. Between the two of us we had a round of Gouda cheese from the BGO (Bellingham Grocery Outlet...) and...you guessed it.. more Little Debbies. I think maybe we had a couple powerbar type things too. No food-booty found.

Oh yeah. If you want to check out a lame-ass web site for Boulder area climbing... http://www.climbingboulder.com/ and tomorrow's objective: http://www.climbingboulder.com/ice/db/rocky_mountain_national_park/glacier_gorge/all_mixed_up.html

Well it's not PNW, nut... Went to Rocky Mountain National Park's Glacier Gorge... Awesome. THe sky was clear, the sun blazing, and everything was covered with a light dusting of dry snow. My partner and I climbed "Black Lake West Gully" (original, huh? all the route around here are names stupid things like "West Face Variation 2" or " Northwest Arete Direct"...) Anyways, four 160' pitches of WI 3-4. The ice was a bit wet, and we listened to free hanging 'cicles dropping from sunny walls for the first part of the day... luckly the gully sits in the shade most of the day and was in acceptable form. Side note: While on the climb, both mt partner and I was the most CRAZY jet-con-trail type thing. Imagine a jet contrail. Now instead of seeing a single line flowing from behind the jet, you see a row of concentric "smoke rings" and no "straight contrail. So it was this line of concentric smoke rings in the middle of the sky going from horizon to horizon (granted, our view was obstructed by the lip of the gully, but we could see at least 2 dozen of these rings... CRAZY! No drugs! Honest! Anywasy, we finished up the climb and hiked out, getting back to the car in a solid darkness. What a way to finish an awesome day!

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Dont you guys play ultimate down there like Canadians do? Smoke a bowl, make up your own rules, don't call it a frisbee! Ya' know... ultimate is the "game" of choice for most Boulderites. Pathetic, they are.... You're not a long-haired yuppy, are you?

Who were you talking about?

This is the best fucking thread!

I wasn't.

Poop: It all started when I moved to Boulder. I used to be a staunch trad-o-phil. I even hiked to the crags in my plastics, like the Mutant-eers told me to. But since I've moved to Boulder... well, yesterday I bought a pair of tights, and three days ago I used "flash", "heinous", and "super-tech" in the same sentence. Now, when I look at myself in the mirror,.... I'm not sure any more. poop, am I a sport climber?

A question of internet ignorance: What is trolling?

BIGONES: Good call. No offence to will strychnine, but boulder seems to be a plenty nice town. I have a suspicion Mr. Strickland just doesn't know enough about Boulder to appreciate what it has to offer. That's just a guess. And yeah, there are a lot of posers, but I prefer to focus on having fun climbing rather than how much posers (don't) bother me. Money? I drink Budweiser. It's cheap here too! Girls. Nothing in WA compares. Oregon. Nope. Idaho? Nope. Cali..probably. But withthtis 70 weather mentioned above.... toodles.

quote: Originally posted by nolanr: As far as Alaska, I'm sure the campus at Anchorage has lots of stuff nearby. However I've been to the Fairbanks campus, and it didn't seem to be close to ANYTHING. It was half a day's drive to Denali NP if I remember correctly. Think long and hard before moving to AK, especially Fairbanks. I've never lived in Fairbanks, but I've visited a freind of mine that lives there and it's a strange place. Not strange like Concrete's strange, not like Leavenworth, not like any remote town I've ever expereinced. The Fairnbanks regulars have been psychologically affected to deal with the winters, the cold, the bugs, the isolation... it sounds like paradise to mountain loving people, but it ends up being totally different than what you might think. OK, I've babbled enough. AK is weird, and probably different than the way you envision it.

quote: Originally posted by mikeadam: ...if you tried to cross the range going across the Pickets you may as well forget it... E/W? independant of the "could it be done in less than a week.." thing.... My brother in law has a little book dedicated exclusively to traverses in the pickets. He told me about a NS travers they did that started at Hanagen, went over easy pass, climbed/trtaversed then slopes of challenger....the middle I don't remember.... terror was in there somewhere.... anyways, they end up finishing coming out that lake east of McMillan... Awesome! What an undertaking! But anyways, this book had a whole bunch of these traverses, mostly "non-techinical" (right!) and it even had a little map that came with the book that was laminated... How fun! Anybody know the name of this book? Know where to get it (besides my brother's house?)