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Here's my logic on that one: I buy spectra 11/19 or what ever it is to replace the 1" option. I pay money and I save how much weight? Not much. At least less than a short set of stoppers. I've left gear only two or three times in 10 years. To have carried around a handful of nuts that MIGHT have fit.... I'll just leave regulars and replace them!

Sarcasm, I assume. Ok, how about this.

One of three routes i've got scanned... easy

Out of curiosity, is this the crack on the northwest side of fragrance lake? How about some more info (I'm planning a road trip to Bellingham for the sweet climbing this spring! Screw J-tree! )

my bad, my bad. The woman's out of town and all these posts from a burly climber click named Donna just got the "d" in my head. Sorry Mr. Dan

Dylan: Have you been to Thailand? If so, send me a PM or email me. dave

I just think it's really funny. I don't have much new to say about the whole thing, but, come on now, "Donna TopStep"? It too funny! And I noticed in the related Dana's Dreadful Direct, many a post has been deleted. hmmm.. Change your mind? (I know I have!) And since I mentioned it... Dana's Dreadful Direct Restored Personally, I think it's better than the "Muir on Sunday..." And if this whole thing needs to be moved into spray, I say go at it. Remember, it's funny.

OK I'm retarded. Someone explain the "sorry about Dresden" thing... thanks

OK I'm retarded. Someone explain the "sorry about Dresden" thing... thanks

I'm looking around cc.com for some good anti-bolt shit. Seriously. I'm in CO and the bolt scene here is ridiculous! Try this one... http://www.climbingboulder.com/rock/db/shelf_road/cactus_cliff/crynoid_corner.html So I remembered all that went down with dana's dreadful direct, did a search, and came up with this. I read through tthe post and it just made me laugh laugh laugh. I love this place! (in retrospect, I can't believe the shit that comes out of my mouth!) So ya'll should read through this for a good ol' fashion cc.com sprayfest! As a side note, CO does have a serious bolt problem. Sport climbing's the norm around here and WA kicks CO ass when it comes to trad climbs.

Wait. Maybe I mis-spoke. I didn't mean to say the tower was safe to climb or that it should or shouldn't have been bolted. I'm just saying we should leave that place alone, no bolting and no tower-pushing-over. Hands off! I'd say if someone is [blank] enough to climb on the tower, they can go for a ride. Just like if someone is [blank] enough to climb a climb that's run out w/o bolts. More power to them!

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nerd? ok. better than a loud mouth dick-head (I'm not talking about caveman here....) oh yeah. And my question was not "is it right or wrong", it's "should they get in trouble" Cave: What's that you're always telling people... "if you'd f*&^ing read my post above, you'd understand me better"

1. I suspect they're not looking for your sympathy. Support, maybe, but sympathy, I doubt. 2. Non-violence is a fundamental part of Buhdism. Maybe differnt monks in china?

I think it's worth pointing out that there who believe hurting another is wrong no matter what! The monks in tibet are at a serious disadvatage/moral dilema in that no matter what force the chinese use(d) to occupy tibet, the monks can only retaliate w/ non-violent methods.

Pushing entire tower over to make it safer is ok but bolts to make it safer are not. Hmm. I'm not going to try and determine exactly who's in favor of what from the posts above (I can hear it now "reading comprehension problem..."). I'm just going to point out it seems silly to be "anti-bolt" on the grounds of environmental disruption and pro tower-pushing-over. I'd be interested to hear from the posters above. To what degree (i.e. fines? jail time?) should the person(s) that pushed the tower over be prosecuted. My opinion: !If! the act was intentional, they should recieev jail time for this. They destroyed public property and destroyed something I considered to be beutiful.

no, not a smoke jumper. Jordan and I were supposed to wait at this spot all day in the super hot sun and this little bush was all the shade we could find.

A+B=B+A

http://www.bdel.com/bd/quality_3sig.html The fact that one bd biner broke above the rated strength should not be suprising considering 99.8% of the biners bd tested broke above the rated strength....

I was wandering around and found this in the "Climbing Partners" part... Ski Crystal to White Pass soon

Something makes me thing you (and others) are (ironically) confusing ACLU with NAACP. My understanding is ACLU isn't that interested in race relations.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Fatal%20Avalanche

I'll call BS on this. Yeah, you can handle the fruit (just like you can fondle cams in the store), but you can't restock it once someone's brought it home. Obviously a store will take fruit back 'cause it's so cheap they can bite the cost and throw it away. Bring back a $50 case of mangos 'cause you've changed you mind and I bet it'd be a different story! Also, sign or no sign, I don't think a store is under any obligation to accept returns. Then, put a sign on top of it, and I see no reason they should take it back. Also again, I can devise a quite reasonable senario that would warrant (no pun intended!) a "no returns" policy: I buy a cam with the intention of modifying it, but I'm not sure the plan will work. So I leave the label on, try my hyjinx, then when it doesn't work, try and return it. (I've tried this with anon-climbing item. I'm a ) Finally, I would ask if the person who started the thread (sorry, I don't remeber your name, and also, I feel your frustration!) if they noticed the sign. If so, you should have known better, and if not, how can FF make the sigh any bigger?

if they're not carding people at the door.