JasonG

Wow! A proud looking line and a great story, thanks for an inspiring TR!

John Scurlock keeps in touch with him.....

I agree that both roads need to be realigned and would support redrawing of wilderness boundaries to make it happen. I have written my reps in support of such a change, and I encourage others who feel the same to do so also.

Voile Mtn. Plate binding, I have the same setup with Scarpa Matrix boots. No need to DIY. However, I think that the new Spark boots and bindings look like the way to go if you have a lot of money to spend on a new set up. AT boots ride OK, but I really miss the soft boot feel. They do skin and traverse quite well though...

Lots of great suggestions, here are few more to add to the list: -That prominent gully (from the Highway) on Whistler Peak between Rainy and WA passes. Great fun, easy descent. -East Face of Mt. Angeles (Olympics) in the winter. -NR of Baker -Adams Gl. on Mt. Adams -NF Buckner -Frostbite Ridge on Glacier Peak -NF ramp on Harvey (BC) Whatever you do, do not take her on the NF of Graybeard. Were you serious Fred??

Can't someone summon the Caveman out of retirement for this important thread?

Exactly. Glad to see that I'm not the only one who feels that NCCC would like to lock the young, old, and relatively unfit from some of the prime NC wildlands. Rebuild the roads already! Until they change their tune, I am firmly against the Legacy proposal.

Great suggestions all! I have tried various types of duct tape over the years and it doesn't seem to stick as well as athletic tape. In my experience, liner socks seem to bunch after a lot of skinning and they rarely are long enough to cover to the top of a ski boot (at least the ones I have seen typically). I will try and seek out some higher quality tape and will try the Benzoin also. Thanks for the quick feedback everyone!

Just wondering if folks have a certain brand of tape that they use for taping feet when using thermo liners (which don't appear to breathe). Normally my boots are fine for a long day out in the hills, but sometimes when I have had to walk a few miles on trails (think exit to Garibaldi Neve traverse) I get some raw spots. The standard athletic tape seems to sweat off rather quickly...but maybe I've just been using the wrong stuff? Have others had this issue, and what have you done? Other than getting out more to toughen the feet that is. . ..

Yo, Cheese Head, surely you jest. Moderators have a sense of humor too....

Good to know, thanks! Given the weather we may be headed into ski season anyway....

Is this the same route we climbed in this TR from a few years ago? We were stopped a body length from the summit by a snowy slab, but had a blast on the ridge itself (the couloir was just a slog in the spring). Nice to hear that it is a good climb on the other end of the summer, and thanks for the blog post!

Kurt's new route linked to this TR that I must have missed years ago. Sounds like a fun route (maybe skip the true summit and descend the way Kurt did?)...recommended? Best in autumn after some melt/freeze?

I thought I had seen it all on cc.com, but this is a first. Tent anchor fetish? The land of Lincoln breeds some interesting characters.

Well, if Ross and Sky hadn't skied all these faces already we might be on par with the Canadian Rockies.

Ah . . . the joys of fire and trundling. Thanks for the video!

Great info, it is on the list. Thanks!

Really cool looking line! In the conditions you guys found, what would you have graded it? Just wondering if it is a moderate weekend warrior route or not....you guys are guides after all.

Amazing info, thanks much Don! This was my first trip this far north in coastal BC, but it won't be my last. You've certainly piqued my interest for more forays even farther afield....

Wicked, Mate! I have the "Classic Dolomites Climbs" book on my shelf, and I have wanted to climb there for some time- thanks for the reminder to keep the dream alive! Most likely I will have to wait for my little rope guns to grow up a bit......

Incredible! Thanks for putting this out John. Like Miller's classic "The North Cascades", I think you may have created something that will be coveted for decades to come.

sounded like a tree that is no longer as bomber as it once was....

Right, THAT thread. Makes more sense now. I was scratching my head a bit.....

I just reviewed this thread, after an interesting discussion with Kevork (sp?) at the SAC monthly meeting last night. I guess the ranger types tune in to our pontificating on cc.com. . . . He was concerned that there was misinformation swirling around the Legacy project and didn't appreciate the personal attacks- I tried to explain that kind of came with the territory around here, and it really wasn't aimed at specific individuals for the most part. Actually I think there is quite a bit of good bit of discussion on this thread, and it is good to see things brought out in the open (if folks are getting the facts wrong, those in the know please chime in). Too often when we are going to get our permits, we just want to keep our heads down and get in and out as quick as possible. Over the years, some of the issues (and our frustrations) can fester. The Legacy proposal is bringing a lot of existing issues to the surface. Regardless, I told him that I certainly don't feel the majority of NCNP rangers are out to mess with me or unfairly limit my access to the park. Like most of us, they care deeply about the North Cascades and often deal with inexperienced people from out of the area. It is probably natural that after dealing with lots and lots of these folks your interactions with experienced locals may start to be colored by these prior exchanges- which is unfortunate. After talking with Kevork, I realized it was just a few instances spread over the years that really had tarnished my impression of the NPS as a whole. Unfortunately these instances (condescending/pushy behavior, assuming I'm out to trash the woods, trying to force the voluntary climbing register on me, etc.) were frustrating enough to really stick with me. Over the same 15+ years I have had only one bad experience with FS rangers (maybe because I almost never see them?). So, when weighing the pros and cons of NPS vs. FS mgmt under the proposed Legacy project, I'm afraid I still stand by my earlier position that we don't really need expanded NPS oversight in the North Cascades. I would encourage Kelly, Kevork, and other NCNP staff to weigh in here to share their perspectives on some of the frustrations voiced here and on other threads recently. Kevork mentioned that they have stated "their" side many times previously (and were thinking of updating the website with some information aimed at these topics), but it doesn't hurt to keep things fresh for our pea brains. I understand that NCNP is not pushing the Legacy project, but I think that many of the issues raised (how permit limits are determined, reservation systems, guiding services, etc.) here are equally valid if NCNP doesn't expand one acre. You will never make everyone happy, but communication is important, and I know most of us would benefit from a broader discussion. Please don't be shy......mattp won't let it get too out of hand.

BTW, the birds in your photos are grebes: http://birdweb.org/birdweb/bird/western_grebe