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paging @Eric Gilbertson!

And, if you haven't yet, go leashless.

Great song!

And what happened to the triumphant return of @jon? Do we have to start slandering him?

\ No.

Yeah @Rad, but we're still here and still real. The mods and @olyclimber keep the bots at bay so ......it's just us. But we're old and don't care about fighting anymore. Sorry @Fairweather!

We need some young 'uns to make fun of us gentrified armchair mountaineers. C'mon, we can take it! I think?

Thanks for bumping this @olyclimber! I needed to remember to use the time height products off the atmos site! (and that's quite the storm coming in tomorrow night!)

Impressive amount of work, thanks!

NICE!!

I've heard from rangers that this is part of it, but mostly they feel that they can't have sledding without ranger supervision. And since they don't have enough staff in the winter to "supervise" visitors adequately, no sledding for anyone. Because, you know, us serfs aren't to be trusted. We might destroy "park resources" and hurt ourselves without big brother's protective gaze upon us at all times.

I'm not sure if any of us would handle that sort of wealth, and the platform it provides, very well. It is sort of mind boggling what is possible when you have unlimited money and visibility.....and nobody to say, "uhhhh, hold on a second Elon."

I really wonder why NPS continues to be so lame. Serious question, even if poorly worded. I don't think you can blame it all on staffing. There appears to be a significant cultural shift in the agency over the past 30 years. My boys don't need big brother (or even dad) telling them where to sled. Might they get hurt? Sure. That's nature for you. They could very well not be smart enough to reproduce, but I don't need NPS telling me that. Maybe we shouldn't let people climb the mountain? Seems dangerous.

Wait, no sledding??? Sheesh.

The long sleeping alpine beast has awakened!

Wow, it is crazy how fast the melt is accelerating in the past 20 years or so. I have even seen it plainly on Dome as well. I have no doubt that another 20 years of this will be even more dramatic. Great looking trip with Kiba!

Right! You said photos, d'oh.

Absolutely....they're gobbling up all the good companies, hoovering up data, and charging too much at the same time. So far I am not giving them any money but we'll see how long that lasts. I know if I have to start paying I'll switch to caltopo as well. I would imagine that you could download all your tracks from Gaia and upload to Caltopo?

I like Gaia, but I get it for free through mountain rescue.

Cool area! No wonder it is popular. I should have gone in twenty years ago, but I was too busy chasing hardman dreams on the bigger peaks north. All I found was a thin yellow pad.

Hmmmm.... so this is what "4th class or harder" means?

Oh I'd like to do that! Never been in there and it has long been on the list. Still though, planning on the shorter traditional version, if only for the car shuttle logistics. But the Dingford end is cool !!

Yeah @OlympicMtnBoy, it was actually better than feared. Still, definitely a mountain that deserves the respect it gets. I will let you know if there is a "next time" but.....

oooh, I should post a photo of my unloved nuts and see if you want those too @Michael Telstad? Depending on how nut rich you want to be for the next adventure.... and yes, we need a TR when the wedder forces you inside!