jon

Hey everybody does things they regret, don't know if Kurt actually regrets the chipping but that was what people were doing at the time. Bottom line this weekend Kurt will be helping a crag and people that he could probably otherwise give a shit about.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Ah Jon I am on to you and Tim - This is really an post-graduate study to see how silly you can get people to act. I bet we have exceeded your wildest expectations and I know you will both graduate with honors and go on to be marketing masters!! Wait until the next part of the study starts!

Ridges of high pressure........ Anyways don't listen to this crap the skiing and ice climbing will be freakin plab this winter. You must project a positive mental attitude to magical freshie man in the sky.

For me a good partner is someone I can trust with my life without hesitation. They don't have to be a great climber because I stink, but I need to know when I'm 100 feet above them and can't see what their doing that they are making smart and safe decisions. If shit hits the fan in a serious way I need to know that they have the ability to rise to the occasion and not flip out. I suppose being able to handle tough situations comes with experience but there are people who can better handle incredibly stressful situations than others regardless of their experience level. I'd rather be stuck in a tough spot with an inexperienced climber but someone who can rationally handle the situation then someone who is experienced and just mentally self distructs, because in the latter case I'd be forced to make decisions for the both of us, and if it's me who is hurt then they are putting both of us at risk if they can't think rationally. Being with a partner who can handle the gravest of situations can mean life or death for someone, regardless of whether you are 2 days from the trailhead on an alpine route or at a roadside crag. As I learned this winter things can get really bad in a hurry even on a short easy 5.7 sport climb.

Hey Leavenworth is pretty cool too. It's almost in Bavaria. So AlpineKronic at Pub Club did anyone volunteer to take charge in organizing this or are we going to argue about this until the day before with strong arm tactics.

Will give ski lesson for beer and horsecock.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: I went climbing with someone once and all they would talk about was how full of idiots this site was! Good thing PP was going incognito that day! Petey, I once went climbing with one of the idiots who started this site if you can believe that!

quote: Originally posted by ivan: never climb w/ orangutangs (or try to spell them either)...all the hair, plus they climb better than me, don't protect long traverses and throw excrement at you the whole time you're seconding LMAO!!! Plus having to carry all those bananas.

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quote: Originally posted by Dave Schuldt: What's this wednesday bullshit, have we changed the day? Dave we changed the day to Wednesday and now it is in Tacoma every week.

I suppose that is the before and after sport climbing pictures huh.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: PowerGel has caffeine in it (some flavors, anyway), and is thus better than GU. Stick your GU up your poo, foo'. GU has caffeine too stupidhead.

For those of you who never participated in this poll take the few second to. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002035

HEY WILL GUYS STOP POSTING PICTURES OF THAT IDIOT, I DON'T CARE IF HE DIRECTED TITATANIC OR WHATEVER.

Bringing this back to the top.

troll troll troll the thread gentle down the..............

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: the world would be a boring place without war. Why don't you walk your ass down to the armed services recruiting office and find out for yourself how much fun it is!!

Trask that is totally stupid. Yeah I'd love to kick their ass, and I would too, but where does that get me. They could charge me with assault, and if they are in some kind of organized crime which I believe this is, then they could come after me. Peter's advice is exactly what I told Lucky. If the local police don't listen go to their superior. If he blows you off go to the County Sherrif and the FBI. Then you go to the press and give the police some bad coverage. Not only will that put some heat on the police it will also raise awareness of what is happening. Plus you don't need the risk of getting shot.

Thanks for your work over the years Andy, same to Darryl and Matt. Here are a few of my thoughts. I think the reason it may appear to many that the Access Fund hasn't done much in Washington is because to the casual onlooker the organization hasn't projected much of a presence besides a few high profile cases like Peshastin and Frenchman Coulee. Of course one person (Andy) and a couple other volunteers can't do this effectively. Additionally when people read in the climbing mags about Access Fund projects in other locations in the US it may give the impression that the AF isn't interested in this area because nobody is hearing about what has been done. In a conversation I had with vice president of the Access Fund they said the major needs at the moment were members and money. Problem is besides flyers at the climbing gym and inserts in the magazines there has been a very poor effert in the recruitment of new members, at least in Washington. This goes along with the organization projecting it's presence. Obviously it is unrealistic for a person like Andy to go around the states crags and such trying to recruit members, so this has to fall on someone elses shoulders, most likely the members of the AF in Washington. Without an organized member group how will this ever happen though? This is just some food for thought. While I totally agree with Andy's, Matt's, and Darryl's sentiments and my dialog may seem a bit negative, I'm trying to approach this from another perspective and identify the problems so that maybe as a group we can proactively come up with some solutions so that we may have a louder voice and accomplish more in the future. Jon

NICE!

God dammit I'm going to kill the driver of the short bus for dropping you two idiots off here.

I think I'm going to start a magazine. Let's call it Gumbynist. Yeah I like that. It will only be class 4 or below, with articles about cougar attacks, horsecock, freshiez, hiking in your plastics up si, Teddy Ruxpin and snafflehounds. Big Lou will have his own guest fashion column featuring this years selection of sexy blue and red sweaters.

If you want to get banned like upperdeck post racist crap or things offensive of children.

Ron- Yeah I screwed up but I can't go back and fix it. Fern- A woman who uses Solaris, will you marry me! I'm going to check out the chat hack, this might be the problem looking at the error logs. What I don't understand is why there are only a few people who have the problem persist throughout the day and even follow them home when for most of us hitting the refresh button solves the problem. I'm not really educated on this subject but I know that some companies and possibly some service providers have network caching appliances to lower their bandwidth outside their intranet, and the people who are suffering from these problems are on these types of networks. I haven't seen any evidence so far that indicates that this is a browser/OS issue.

Oh yeah one more thing If you have had persistant problems, lets say at least a couple hours of errors, but are no longer having any problems, please post what you did to fix the problem including what OS and browser you are using. Thanks, Jon