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How did the church kids do? I think one was a friend of my brother's.

So about 3 years ago I managed to go over the handlebars of my bike and came down straight on my kneecap. Went and got x-rays and saw a doc and the verdict was a contusion. The knee took a while to get better, but a week ago went on a long backpacking trip and it began to hurt and swell during the night. I went and saw a PT when I got back to see if he had any advice, and he said that when I crashed I may have chipped some cartilage off of the tip of my femur when my kneecap rammed into it. Has anyone ever heard of this or know of a good way to read up on this? All of my search attempts involving knee and cartilage brings me straight to the meniscus. Basic prognosis is "If the activity hurts, stop doing it" and I would like to know some long term consequences without waiting to see whats up. Thanks

Anyone have pictures of the indoor ice wall?

Tvash makes sense, but so does Fairweather. Blaming climate change for a single weather event is a sketchy practice. Often when there is a heavy winter storm you hear "Where is climate change when we need it" and when there is a heatwave climate change is blamed. Climate not weather remember that. I had a teacher who phrased it as "Climate is the clothes in your closet, and weather is what you are wearing at the moment." Crazy weather does happen and cannot all be attributed to climate change. And Sarah Palin quit because she killed Michael Jackson, his sister said so.

Good question on the ropes, wish I knew.

Avoid the Princeton Fuel, mine just met an early death as I pulled it out of my tent. The battery cover is held on by two pieces of plastic that are about 2mm thick, and both of those broke at the hinge. No hard use and have had it for about a year.

I think you got it backwards Raindawg. RIP JB

I will be in town after July 10th or so, and would be interested in laps with or without tools.

Awesome. I had briefly looked at it before, and was thrown by the change in color of glaciers in Hood River County, and assumed you went a lot further into tree line than was true. GIS is on the list of things to learn, but is a PITA to schedule for at my school. Are you a GIS major, or were you able to figure this out from a couple of quarters of classes?

Have you been able to correlate your project with known avy chutes? That looks like a sweet project.

Fuck. I got to see Micah talk, and his understatement of what his and Jonny's trip to Pakistan took was great. If someone can pull through this it is those guys. Hope the other two are out there in a snowcave somewhere.

Check out Stealth Paint. I believe it is made by 5.10.

I believe I saw something on rc.com that CEN certification was dropped. I will look for the page. http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=2143110;page=14;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Here is the link, page 14 the image about halfway down. No idea if this is true, or what led to this.

Wow, way to go, hiked up to Yocum in the summer, and did not enjoy thinking about doing it with snow on the ground. Get any cool pictures of the falls as you went by?

Being good at climbing is aid? Seriously though, looks pretty damn cool, something to think about while writing a crummy scientific report. Thanks for the post.

Are the Greenland studies focusing on albedo changes to the glacier as a reason for the melting there? I'm going to give the Mars thing a try. Since Mars has a very weak to no atmosphere, and there are no bodies of water on the planet there are few things that absorb, and/or trap some of the energy that comes in. The surface can directly absorb energy but that is about all. This is where it gets real tricky for me to understand, but I think that during Mars's winter there is CO2 "snow" that forms in the north, which then sublimates during the summer. I haven't read any of the papers about Mars temperature rising, but I think what is argued is that without an atmosphere the temperature is more correlated with changes in albedo one way or another. There are also clouds that form, but I have absolutely no understanding there.

There are a few other possible ways that the earth's albedo can change with warming. There is the ice albedo feedback, which is one of the large concerns about the arctic melting. As all of the snow and ice with a very high albedo melts during the summer this exposes the darker ocean which then absorbs more of the radiation. Another albedo feedback is as the Arctic warms trees and shrubs are able to grown further north. Since they sit above the snow they will begin to start absorbing energy as soon as the snow melts off of the branches, even though there is still snow on the ground.

OK, kind of buzzed while I write this, so entirely possible I missed a key aspect, and I apologize if so. Joseph's first link is showing how humans release much more (150x) CO2 than volcano's. Second link is rejecting the theory that there has been decreased cloud formation(resulting in an increase of albedo, and therefore more warming) due to changes in galactic rays. Do the rays serve to introduce particles or ions, that after they get the chance to grow larger function as cloud condensation nuclei? I have gotten the berylium concentrations as a measure of galactic waves talk before, but that pretty much flew right over my head. Third link is talks about possible reasons for warming 10 km above the Equator. Is this relating to the whole top down, versus bottom up warming? I don't quite see the relevancy besides creating confusion, and had never heard the argument of warming in the Tropopause over the Equator offered as evidence either way. Forth link is a summation of a brief study done that offers the newest Zogby type poll on what "X" people/scientists believe. Now a few questions based on Fairweather's recent post. Don't atmospheric aerosols have a overall affect of keeping the planet cooler than it would be otherwise. I hate to provide wikipedia as a source, but am too lazy to look up the paper by Jim Hansen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming The theory is that the increased amount of aerosols that were put into the atmosphere early 1900s and 1800s served to mask the affects of CO2 on warming, but as the Clean Air act and other emission standards begin to take effect we are cleaning our atmosphere compared to the past 150 years resulting in a decreased albedo and more warming occurring as part of that feedback. I could be completely talking out of my ass, but it would be nice to hear what people think.

Here is an 80 footer in a Goodyear innertube. Metlako Falls up Eagle Creek. http://therangelife.blogspot.com/2006/05/tuber-goes-big-other-stuff.html

Nuke it/him.

Awesome. Way to go WSDOT. To bad I have a test Monday.

Wow...... Great photography.

Got exactly what ordered in great conditions. Thanks.

PM'd about screws.

Try the trick I mentioned above, seems safer than the copper wire trick, but a little slower and less neat.