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Worst I've ever seen it.

No.

Ah sweet, it's been a while since Gary started a thread about how the world should work better and make more sense.

I believe the AFD is designed to work with AT boots. Some potentially relevant info.

Can anyone tell me what current ice conditions are in the Hyalite/Bozeman area? Is everything covered in snow? I've never been there. Montanaice.com seems almost devoid of information. If anyone knows another relevant site I'd love to be pointed in the right direction.

Whoa, that's like having your cake and eating it too! Only if your cake sketches you out when you try to eat it...

I'd like it to be the way it was before. Can you make a CSS that does that?

You guys just periodically need to fuck around with things?

Gary... are you being an insulting twat on purpose or accident?

Whaaaaaaat are you talking about.

I followed Sagittarius (hey look, I figured out how to spell it) so I am not sure what I'd do, but I think my leader left the #6 near the top of the "chimney" section. He probably put it in somewhere near the middle and walked it. Maybe my memory is off though.

Backbone on Dragontail. Now would be a great time of year for it. Sagitarius at Index. Sagi-scarious.

I was trying to take a picture of him when he whipped. Pure luck.

What are those, Cairns? They look sweet.

You took offense at being told you look suspicious. But, you were about to commit a crime. Have you thought about that?

I've always felt like there are no distinct routes on upper upper castle, it all seems like mid-fifth knob grabbing.

That is true from what I understand. Why do you think people's knees get wrecked with such frequency? Anyway, this is a pretty awesome rant. You sure know better. Maybe you should buy an iPod.

Is it really better to hold onto your dissatisfaction until you can talk about it on the internet, than to try and solve the problem on the spot and in-person?

Is there a difference between the DMB fan base and the Jack Johnson fan base?

Thank you for the well-written, thoughtful and coherent review.

I was under the impression that REI also will not take back climbing gear.

I've got a 1984 F250 with the 6.9 liter diesel. I believe this is what MisterMo is talking about above, be aware that this is an International motor, not the Powerstroke motor that is in years you are probably asking about. It is the bomb though- can tow a car and still get 17 mpg. It's got a quarter of a million miles on it and still seems to be going strong. If you want the real info it is here: fordtrucks.com. Beta overload. are you getting tears in your latte?

I don't know where you're getting your beta... never heard "deathwish" and "apron" in the same sentence before. Most of the well-traveled routes up the apron do not have "serious runouts". Deidre, for example, follows a crack almost the whole way and you can protect as much as you want. There is a runout slab at the very bottom but it is not serious.

I've got no problem with your suggestion. I think the most important element in being safe is a REAL understanding of the gear you use and the situations you can find yourself in. A formal organized class could prepare you with the real comprehension and flexible thinking it takes to be ready to go out on your own, or it could instill in you a belief that rote memorization equals safety. I don't think individualized learning is different. Whatever your style, approach your limits, but approach them cautiously.