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And that of christianity has somehow been significantly different? Really? In what way?

Don't know, but at least they haven't flown a plane into anything like so many musicians and other terrorists.

Talent-wise, from a lyrics perspective, I'd say it's pretty much a toss up so maybe not entirely inappropriate.

We didn't have a half million troops in Afghanistan (and another in Iraq) because Cheney and Rumsfeld knew the American people had no stomach for a 'real' war and so went cheap and light to keep things under a threshold of pain that could be largely ignored by a shopping public. In the process they put untold young American lives at risk and invested a trillion dollars in perfecting IEDs as the weapon of choice in modern asymmetric warfare against our military.

If 9/11 had happened in Beijing, the entire WTC site would have been completely rebuilt and back in operation by 2005 and there would have been a half million Chinese troops in Afghanistan.

Yep, the roots are way down the cracks. Have thought about jumping on DDO myself ever since the re-anchoring, looks like a good one.

The columns are all re-anchored, including DDO's top anchor (not middle though). Re-doing the top and middle anchors of the South Face columns so they could be cleaned out and resurrected was the whole point of doing it, ditto for cleaning the approach slab. That blackberry patch was cleaned out, but it clearly grew back fast enough.

Christianity and christians would be right next to Islam and muslims in any statement I was willing to sign onto. Given the relentless christian geonicide of aboriginal cultures around the world with much of it still hard at work today in other guises.

The polarizing is courtesy of the Koch family who have now bought the republican and tea parties lock, stock, and barrel with oil money and are the personification of a resurgent John Birch Society.

The D5 hammer project has been taking a back seat to the things that have price tags for Theron and to his family moving houses. Final handle samples are being made this week and he has the funk hole drilling and jig sorted out. At this point we're just waiting for the holes to get drilled and once the heads are ready for heat treating we'll place the actual handle order with Seymour and the leashes with Fish. Should be wrapped up this fall as it's looking now.

Bill, I thought Theron had a larger one in the works at one point or another. Did that ever happen? Those Mammut skinny slings should probably be retired to other uses than holding falls after about three to four seasons depending on how hard they get used.

Well, you basically cut out the entire S. Washington aid contingent with those requirements - better check with the boy scouts.

Beat me to it! DDO needs a go. Good job.

Well, given probably only half the people do p5 at all, and of those that do probably under half of them do it via the fin. So I'd say people voting with their feet have rendered it a variation with only some of the people who get on YW bothering to do it at all. The exit-stage-right there is a lot like the exit-stage-left on p4.

Ammon once posted up on ST that his speed was mostly about not dicking around obsessing over placements - place'em, check'em, and then get on up and high step'em (with the implied just expect n falls per m placements). Hopefully he'll be over being tazed by the detour and legally able to leave CA for it.

If it qualifies then it is no different than any other project qualifying for tax-exempt bonds, what's the problem? Or is it with the notion of tax-exempt municipal bonds in general?

I bet so.

Hmmm, I'm no crimper either and think it's mostly a matter of getting your feet setup well and then bumping your right foot up one level so you can then reach up to the horizontal seam with your right hand with no problem. Both those pins are solid and I'd wing on them any time if it's any comfort. P5 is fine, you just want to be sure and do the Opdycke variation straight up and left of the last bolt (over the angled fin) continuing straight up and definitely not bail out right at the bolt which will put you face-to-face with the rock I'd recommend people stay as far away from as possible.

You must be doing the p3 crux differently than I am as it's barely 5.9- once you sort out the moves. And a 5.9 way over the p4 crux? I must be doing it way different from you.

It was up a little way on p1 and I threw it down to the base in case someone came back for it. I suspect it belongs to the guys that were leaving when I walked up. One was older and bearded, the other younger, less experienced, and wearing brown Kaukulators. Didn't get their names.

There are definitely small, but very positive handholds on the variation I do of it. I agree with the 10a rating on the move, though.

I wouldn't argue the contrived point by any means given it's a shuffle to the left and you're up. How was it done on the FA? Up and over or stage left?

I suppose it's possible the variation of the p4 crux I do is harder than necessary and different from some 5.9 variation I missed that others may do, but it is secure throughout the move though definitely a solid 5.10 move.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. But how many people actually do that move versus the slab walk-around to the left?

I'd say it's by and large a 5.7 with an occasional moment of 5.8 (p1), 5.9 (p2, p3), and a 5.10ish one-move boulder problem (p4).