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Love the shot of the knuckle dragging split boarder exiting stage left at the sleds..LMAO.... Great job on the video.

I should be driving one of these this weekend to get around

If you can even travel I-5 this weekend. This morn I heard they think it will be closed for 4 days. We will see. I was planning on heading north tomorrow.

The tow master.

:tup:Best tow around :tdown:to needing a tow

WOW this is a great gear thread. NOT. What is your point with all this. Are you trying to get us to buy that tent? Or are you wanting validation that the walmart tent is the best thing since sliced bread. If that is the case, you made your point. I am going to go right out and buy one. Now can this thread die already. Isn't there some east coast forum that you could spam? Oh wait you got banned from all of those, lucky us.....

LMAO....it is offical you guys are dorks with waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. LOL. great TR. This one should go on the classics list.

Frikadeller, I could see there being a potental conflict if you were using the beacon basin while they were activly doing beacon searches with other beacons due to all the signals going out. But this could be used as a teaching aid to ignor the false signals. Other than that forget about it. It is the instructors problem. He should go out and track the sh$t out of that area anyway prior to using the beacon basin. His problem would have occured during thier practice anyway unless they tracked the area up makig it hard to find the dug up spots. In the past when I was teaching up there I made false pits just for that reason. FYI I am not the guy you ran into. The beacon basin is for PUBLIC USE and WILL STAY that way. If this kind of conflict continues I will have a discussion with the parties involved and take care of it. By all means have your buddies use it when ever they need to brush up. I also would like to thank Roger once again for taking the time and effort for putting the beacon basin out there for everybody to use.

boy that is a really specilized piece of gear. What 2 people would by that. Or maybe more and more people are simul-rapelling?

I have a friend who would like to get his boots stretched a bit, too narrow. What is the best place in Portland to go?? Heck I might do it as well. Thanks

Softshell is a layer piece just like anything else. I have a mountain hardwear softshell, the thinest one. I used it this summer for climbing and I loved it. It was perfect when it got cool and windy. I only used my shell once with it, if I had pants instead of shorts I may not have needed the shell. However I have been using it for biking in the cold mornings and I am not as sold on it for winter. It does not breath enough. If I stop I get sweety(sp?) then I get cold. If don't stop it seems to be good for at least an hour of riding but I better get in and change otherwise I get cold. With that said I can't wait to try it out on a climb to see how it works. Maybe biking is too much for it and anything that will give me enough wind protection will get me too sweety(sp?). When I will use it for climbing it will be a layer. Thin long sleeve for making time, then the softshell when I slow down. When things get really windy and or cold the shell goes over that. Breaks will put on a puffy if I bring it. That combo or a close veriant to it serves me 90% of the time.

looking really bare up there.

damn I am not going to be able to make the 9th. Pizza party for volunteers for a program I am running. Forgot all about it. Any budy up for 1oth or the 11th? I can get out there as early as 3 pm.

I don't think that the fee's are the sole result in declining use. I contribute it to a multible of factors, I will only touch on two. The average family has been brain washed into thinking that they need all this special gear to camp. When in fact in most cases of camping at a camp ground you only need the clothes you own. Fancy rain gear, special boots, sox, shirts, sleeping bags, and..... are just not needed. I remember as a kid when my family headed out I had a cheep sleeping bag from REI (WAY BACK when they were a REAL Co-op) and just my street clothes and my huffy BMX bike. Perfectly happy. When my dad and I started backpacking all I got was a proper external frame backpack, and that was relativly cheep. No rain gear other than the jacket I had for school no fancy pants or shirts. Yes cotton kills in bad weather but it works just fine for the summer backpack trip. All the equipment we used was not the lightest and best, but it all worked! People get brain washed, we need the best of the best. As for the electronic generation. I agree. I coach high school track and the kids now days, heck even in the 6 years I have been coaching have changed. They are more fragile as a general rule. There are always exeption to the rule. I have had to teach high school kids how to SKIP. No I am not kidding, how to skip. What kid does not know how to skip. In the spring the first couple of weeks have to be easy work-outs as not to break 90% of the kids out for track, and to not scare them from the hard work it will take to make them faster. When I started coaching I would make a promise to my kids that they might not be the fastest but they would be the fitest kids on the track. If they were not the fastest they would be able to hold a pace and break thier competition in the long grind. As stated earlier I have had to back away from that so that I don't have too many kids on the injured list. People as general are getting physically lazy. Why go hike when I can ride a motorbike or play on my computer. After college my roommate and I moved to portland and we went on several runs. He was a "city kid." I finally egged him into a run in forest park. He had never ran in the "woods." This was forest park. The whole time I felt sorry for him, and amazed that this was such an amazement to him. Then I realized I should be happy that I introduced him to something other that running in the city and there is a life outside of pavement. I better stop now, I could go on for days. I would like to thank my parents for getting me out there and showing what life is about. We may not have had all the fancy stuff I have now when I head out, but we made the best of it and had a blast. Just wish I could take my dad out more often and further. Now he can borrow my gear instead of the other way around I am sure there are tons of spelling errors, oh well.

CU on the 9th.

LOL the top rear end of my pants get wet anyway. Just looked at the golite site and they don't make it anymore Multi day trips is one of the reasons I want to make this.

But at what cost? Lets go to war, it is just a bunch of robots. No humans, well at least on our side are going to get killed. Do you think this would lead to less or more conflict?

I would be interested in heading out for some dry tool. I have never done it before, FYI. Would it be best for crampons to be mono or dual point? would it mater?

This is true. But you get sweaty and soak out your clothing on your back. But a VB next to the skin or with only one thin layer under neath will keep the rest of your clothing dry and you warmer. I have tried this before, putting silinylon on the back of an old thin thermal shirt that I would layer over. It worked great, but the funk factor was twice as fast. After a couple of washings the silinylon was toast. The vest would not need to be washed or it would be easly washed by hand vs. a shirt with the VB. Something to try at least.

nice work boys, almost makes me want to get out. Almost

Does anybody know where I can get a mesh vest. No this is not some kinky sex thing. I want to sew nylon to the back and make a vapor barrior out of it but keep the front airy for venting.

what would be sweet would be a NEW FREAKING guide complete book for smith with the new routes in the last couple of years. Think some one would get it done and make a ton of $$$$. I know of at least 10 people that would buy it right away.

how do you plan to get up there? G-friend and I are looking for a hike and I love that side of the mountain.

Chad....that is SICK!!!! nice work. Some day.......

double wow. All we need now is some rain to saturate the soil and a large wind event and then about 20 ft of snow. Those fire crews have my thanks, they did a great job. To see how close it got to the structures, amazzzin!!