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OK, I have a pair of these foot-mitten things. I will try running a short distince in them tonight, and if all goes well I will test them for about a week and give the feedback. I feel stupid walking around in them.

How about just banning marriage? Why only save gay people from misery?

Freedom is everything

I love to look at a muscular lady! Only thing wrong with a muscular lady like that is I would be too embarrassed to get naked in front of her for fear she would laugh. Fat women are good for my self-esteem.

Is one to assume that she still has good circulation in the finger? (Squeeze the fingernail and see how long it takes for color to return)

Seems like the choices are clear. You can leave it alone, take a crow bar to the flake, or throw a bolt around it. I guess another option would be to try to bolt the flake to the wall to hold it there. Know that no matter which decision you make, there will be folks who will disagree with that decision and possibly even continually voice their disagreement. My personal thought would be to take the crow bar down to it, if a crow bar is not enough then perhaps it is not as loose as you think. If a crow bar does take it down, then you may save someone’s life by getting rid of it: well worth the flack you may receive. Realistically, I don’t see any duty on your part to fix the problem that nature has provided, but nor will I judge you for whatever decision you make toward satisfying your conscience. If it was me, I would crowbar, then bolt. Just my thoughts.

Thanks Layton. I am going to see if I can scrape the money to buy a pair and see what happens. I will share any feedback I get. E

Ya, but have you group showered at the car wash?

OK Layton, you have all of the medical background so I place a lot of weight in your opinions. Skipping all the "April fools" and other jokes, are you suggesting to an uneducated person like myself that these funny looking things are actually going to be a good running shoe? You tell me that they have your stamp of approval and I will buy a pair and test them. Serious Layton? Edit: Ok, I had never seen or heard of these shoes, but have just performed a little research and they seem to be coming up as legitimate. My first impression was that it was pure humor, but I am being swayed. Any more reviews out there before I go buy a pair of the funniest footwear I have ever seen?

Much of the world believes that the moon landings were faked, and they have some interesting evidence in their favor. Shadows where they should not be, lack of dust, and identical rocks appearing in photos on different areas of the moon feed the non-believers. On the poster above, look at the direction of the shadow from the one light source, and look at the reflection on the helmet lense from a second light source. All will admit, there were no second light sources available during the moon landings. Cool stuff.

That's funny as hell arch; funny as hell

Layton, I don't know if it made any impact to Jens, but after reading this thread this morning the words have been haunting me. "Either commit or quit complaining." Nice advice, I think I have a committment coming on. Thanks.

bigga belly?

When people food becomes poison like pet food has, you skinny people are going to starve and wish you had the "energy reserves" of we bellied people.

When are we going to finally get to understand that the size of a guys belly is more important than the size of his … underbelly. A large belly implies affluence, kindness, and the willingness to not focus his time on himself, rather on his mate. Come on ladies, reevaluate and contemplate the possibilities.

I am still trying to figure out which one of our lady posters is in this photo? I would even shower first!

Back when I was teaching High School, I had a principal tell me that I was crazy if I didn't think that my job was a political job. The fine line a teacher has to walk to keep his/her butt out of a political firestorm is tough. By the end of my career, there were numerous subjects that I would not approach because I could not accurately discuss the topic without some parent pissing off at the school. The reason teachers have become mediocre in their jobs is because parents have forced them to be that way. Sad, but true. And much like any other service industry, “the customer is always right” and parents rule the educational system. I finally quit.

Good work kurthicks, thanks for doing all the work so we can play.

I am curious how forcing everyone to do things the way you want to is “gay.” “Gay” would seem to be going against the way everyone else wants you to do things. Gay would seem to be showing your independence. If we are going to insult gay people by calling everything we feel negative about “gay,” then perhaps we should at least try to show the intellectual supremacy of insulting them correctly. To me, the new rule would seem to be republican heterosexuality at it’s finest, and perhaps a little more gay thinking would help the system. Just my thoughts. edit: and yes, I am wearing a man-skirt in the photo.

Thank you Alpinerack, I will get them to Amy. Nice rapping with you. E

Make sure an post all of your meetings for all of us camera buffs.

I previously climbed at an area with limited people. They left draws on routes they were doing, I often bailed on routes and left draws temporarily. I then discovered that my draws were being taken due to this "ethical" difference between a bail biner and a project biner. Once discovered, we made a deal that if they start leaving my gear alone, I would continue to leave their gear alone. The current problem arrises when we start thinking that we have a common set of ethics, which is just not true. Any bolting discussion will show the difference in our ethical positions. When is gear "booty" verses someone elses gear to be left alone? I have no doubt that there are many differing views also. My advice is take your gear with you if you don't want someone else to own it. Their taking the gear does not necessarily make them bad, it could mean that they are dealing with a different set of "common ethics" than you are.

Thanks for the correction buddy.

Trip: Red Rock Vous - Sunflower Route Date: 3/28/2007 Trip Report: After the RRR-vous, which was a highlight event of my year thus far, I ended up spending the following few days climbing with my buddy and half-a-herd of sweet young 20-something ladies; a tough life for an old bull. During the days, we endured some unexpected cold temps, snow, wind, and a lot of smiles. I also had the opportunity to meet cc poster “Sherri,” who now has my vote for most beautiful lady on the site. On Wednesday I took off with a nice young lady met at the RRR and headed for the solar slab. We got up late because of extremely cold temps. Amy is fairly new to the sport, but smiled like a pro. Amy is in the beginning stages of her first “dirtbag” road trip, hopefully the first of many. We headed up the solar slab gully passing one group. Caught up with two groups at the top of the first pitch out of the gully (p-6) and decided to skip the lineup and headed to the right up the “sunflower route.” This basically being Amy’s first real multi-pitch, no guidebook, I was pretty impressed at how calmly she came along. I led the first two pitches (5.8 I believe) knowing that a 5.9 bolted pitch was next. I saw a bolt, and no anchors, so used that bolt as the top anchor of the anchor system I set up. It wasn’t until I was belaying Amy behind that I stood up tall enough from the rock to see that I stopped about 10-15 feet short of a three-bolt anchor. When Amy got to me, I asked her if she felt comfortable continuing on past and setting up anchors where the anchors were to be. I was astonished by her willingness to basically lead a few bolts of 5.8 – 5.9, 1100 feet off the deck, when she was basically still in the very beginning stages of learning to lead. She smiled, said OK, and took off. It was a nice lesson for her to lead up and get to set up anchors, set up and belay me up; having me merely 20 feet away to talk her through the systems. I was impressed and proud. I took off up the next pitch, a 5.9 bolted face spanning the gap between the bottom crack running out and an upper crack beginning. I got into climbing 10 years ago to get over my extreme fear of heights, but the nerves are still there. Being a fat old man, 5.9 is not far from my top abilities. The first bolt I came to was a tiny piece of rust on a ¼ inch bolt. Uff da. Over the weekend I saw a pile of garbage that had been taken out of the rock and replaced by the access fund, and had fresh in my head how weak some of the rusted bolts had been.. Climbing onward, I discovered that someone has basically replaced every-other bolt with a newer one, thereby granting a little confidence. It felt nice subduing the fear and proceeding with what appeared to Amy to be the easy confidence of an experienced climber. It was a Zen victory when I got back to the crack and the difficulty eased up somewhat. A couple more pitches of somewhat easier climbing and we topped out. According to my altimeter, Amy had climbed 1400 feet vertical to begin her multi-pitch career. We headed over to the top of the solar slab route to rap. As we arrived, two gentlemen were topping out, and the four of us joined together for a quick rappel. I often join others in the back country, but rarely with such an ease of teamwork. We hung ropes, rapped, while others were pulling or throwing the other ropes, and continued down in what seemed like a highly-practiced routine of a highly-trained team. We left the top of the solar slab at the same time a group of three were leaving the top of the gully to head down, and we caught them two pitches before they finished. It was teamwork at it’s finest. We started at 11a.m., and got off the rock at about 6:15 p.m., and felt great after a day of sweet climbing. Since I adhere to the adage that the best climbs are the ones upon which you have the most fun, I have to rate our adventure as tremendous. Thanks Amy for a beautiful climb. Gear Notes: Will take pretty much whatever you bring. Love those hexes. Approach Notes: Solar Slab Approach, Oak Creek Canyon.