John Frieh

They're fine assuming you can return them to their original state/sharpness. A lot of drytooling tends to round the very front of the pick and unless you significantly shorten the pick you never seem to return the pick to its original shape/sharpness. I would second Chad's recommendation on having a dedicated pair of drytool picks... better yet buy a pair of the T rated picks as they are equipped with a larger front tooth and teeth on the top of the pick so your tool doesn't skate when you stein pull... you will feel a difference (especially when trying to hook on sloping edges). If you do end up opting to dedicate one pair of picks for just drytooling, spray paint them with automotive paint or something so you can tell them apart from all your other picks.

Hey! It's RuMR!

Keep getting out!

In case someone else is wondering... 1/2 size down from your boot size if you plan to wear them all day with a thick sock... a full size down if you are looking for a rock shoe fit and plan on wearing super thin socks.

Those weren't flames. If you are going to make a comparison make sure there is some legitimacy to your claims.

Unless you're talking about STDs

maybe even a wsu cheerleader!!! Only if she collaborated with her sorority sisters

Orange alien would work great too!

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I have permission from the individual who bolted the routes we are drytooling to do so. These routes he put up have long grown over and haven't seen any traffic in recent years. Daniel and I were pulling off so much moss and mud last weekend it almost seemed like spindrift. Yes they are at the far end of the cliff.

Come down to PDX Friday morning (or heck Thursday night... you can stay at my house)... I'll give you the tour Friday morning Worth the drive!

Come on... does anybody know anybody?

Anybody interested in drytooling this Friday Nov 4th from 7/8 am - noon/1 pm at either Rocky or Broughton? If so shoot me a PM or call me 541.231.2062

Not likely as all you SEA kids seem to do during the week is club and spray Post something in the ice climbing forum... you never know...

I think any time between now and at least Sunday is going to be a post hole spin drift nightmare. Maybe longer. Conservative estimates for snowfall in the next few days are still in the feet! Sorry if you were hoping to hear directly from Daniel!

Shit my bad!

Everyone makes good points... sidehilling, brush and trees all suck with a sled. I was guessing you were asking for shoes for your upcoming climb on Shasta (correct?)... if so consider a sled. Sounds like most people like MSR...

PDXers! Don't forget Pub Club on Nov 9th from 5-7 at the Low Brow Lounge prior to the Timmy O'Neill Slide Show

I don't know how much you weight but if you have to carry a pack that heavy chances are (assuming it is an option) pulling it on a sled is much faster. MSR

I'm going to guess I am grasping here but... Does anyone know if the Kayland Ice Comp is sized the same as all their other boots (M11, Super Ice, etc)? Not really interested in what you think of the boot... more interested in how they fit... i.e. did you try some on at a demo and found they ran a 1/2 size small, 1/2 large, true to size etc etc? Any and all sizing info would be great! And if you know someone who has a pair or has tried on a pair and can put me in contact with them that would be great too!

If you can't go till Turkey day I would say go to smith and link as many routes as you can in a day. This will help you get ready for a grade III or IV and you will have better luck with the weather. Try: Moscow or Peking to top of Misery Ridge. Hike over ridge climb either 13a (variation to original on monkey) or first kiss first and then do the other. Hike along backside climb spiderman, climb sky ridge, drop over * pass climb as many routes as possible on the front side. Aim for 15-20 routes that day. Repeat the next day.

On it!

Whatever fits. Rainier in winter might be a bit cold for leathers depending on how many days/nights you take (leathers freeze after a few nights out) and your circulation. Yes it has been done but I would venture a guess that most people wear plastic. Have you climbed Rainier in the early spring before? What did you wear then? With that said leather will be warm enough for just about everything else in the cascades in winter. Maybe buy the leathers (what ever fits) and rent plastics if you try for rainier.

Hey Daniel! Are you thinking what I'm thinking