John Frieh

I would say to each their own. I would guess you look at Steins and say "why?" and the sport climber stoked about a new 5.11 route would look at 2 days of devil's club and say "why?". As long as people are getting out, having a good time, and not negatively impacting others more power to them!

Perhaps you (or someone) could camo the hangers? That's too bad but didn't you put ropes on Turkey Monster all summer (I could be wrong here)? How is that different? I would agree I don't like seeing ropes hanging there over time. You (and everyone else on this site) is entitled to their opinion regarding what is the best style. It is my opinion that if this person wanted to create a sport route for all to enjoy he should put in the best bolts he/she can and in a place that makes the route safe and enjoyable... i.e. good route engineering. You and I both know that rap bolting allows for better route engineering than on lead. Yes bolting on lead is "bolder"... but is it a smarter and safer way to create sport routes? I would say no.

Are the bolts on lines that could be protected w/ trad gear? Can you climb 5.11?

Finally! Someone to share the abuse with

I swear at least once a day every day or so you see this: I wonder who it could be?

Right here

ABSOLUTELY NOT! WE WANT NEW PEOPLE TO COME TRY IT! Yes we all come out to get some practice and stay strong for next spring but the real motivation behind starting drytool night last year (at least for me) was to create a venue for local climbers to get together and meet/check out new potential new climbing partners. This is your chance to meet some fellow idiots who think scratching metal against rock in the dark forest of NE PDX is a good time. Who knows what else you might have in common! We will start at 4 pm tonight... it might vary week to week so keep an eye on this thread for updates on when/where we will be. Also feel free (anyone) to use this thread for PDX partner requests

Hood lap? Cool... I'll call you Avie.

Yes. More smith: Anybody else with some smith stoke (the rest of mine is at home )?

Yes. Who said you would ruin it? Yes. Tuff is dried mud (ash). Because heavy handed cleaning tactics including crow bars, hammers, etc etc has cleaned off the crap (and there is a lot of it) and actually produced what many consider a world wide sport climbing destination. If trad is your game and you have never been here before you will find enought to do to make the drive worth it... you just won't run into anyone from France, Germany, etc etc (and you will... I bumped into some swiss this past weekend) that flew here for the trad climbing... they do fly here for the sport. But why popular? Thousands of sport routes packed in so approach distance is minimized. Everyone should visit smith at least once.

Beard plus double bonus for it being a local climber sporting shorts over poly pro at smith

Everyone who has contacted me is voting for Wednesday so Wednesday 10/19 it is for first annual Hood lap! Contact me and I'll let you know where to meet so we can carpool. Related to that drytool night will be this Tuesday 10/18 @ 4pm at Rocky Butte! Get yer to drytool night! PM or call me (541.231.2062) if you are coming! Newbies are welcome and encouraged! Bring a headlamp as it's starting to get dark before we are done.

The bulk of cc.com PDXers post in this thread when they are looking for partners or when they will be climbing somewhere around town and are inviting who ever to join. Basically a bunch of us climb at rocky butte midweek every week... as the weather gets worse we drytool. A number of us are going to start doing a weekday hood lap at night also. Finally I know a number of PDX cc.comers head south every weekend to smith... you might meet a few of them at drytool night or at one of the local climbing gyms. Hope this helps!

vw4ever is looking for someone that night. what time you planning on leaving Portland? 541-231-2062

If you are interested in a Hood run this week PM me with: - days of the week you could go - the earliest you could leave as well as the latest you can be back in Portland (we will likely carpool from a central location so buffer your time) I would propose either Tuesday or Wednesday night. Give me a shout

1 hour 30 minutes unless you hit traffic. Though it is supreme choss you could drytool on the rock above the lake/pond thing east of lewisburg saddle on Sulphur springs road. A few other illegal options exist in Corvallis. PM me if interested.

Chouinard will be in PDX tonight (Thursday)

Post some pics when you get back please!

PDX is the airport code for Portland International Airport (kinda like SEA is the airport code for Seattle). Us locals who are to lazy to type or say "Portland" opt for "PDX"

Pics from 10/12. Where were you? At home watching America's next top model? Martha Stewart Apprentice? Get yer to DT night! Anybody is welcome! Hope so see some more fresh blood next week as well as the regular crew Team PDX! Tim isn't registered with cc.com but he made it out LCM's first time ever dting Daniel Harro sans leashes masternate32 trying to keep his feet on

There is any area up near exit 38 that is detailed in the WA Ice guide. I've been meaning to get up there and try it out. Alas, I just sharpened my tools and pons last weekend too, guess I'll need to do it again before the real ice cometh. All you guys need is a some chunk of rock no one carries about... the closer to Seattle the better... the more time climbing and the less time driving for training nights is key! Also as your skill set improves look for steeper stuff... it will only help. Even more important then that is you need a core group of motivated individuals that want to be there on a weekly basis. Even if it is just 2 or 3 people as long as you guys are meeting weekly you will build the momentum needed to get a weely climb night established. I know trekandclime, Ade, Alpinedave and some other dudes went a few times last year... see if they are interested in starting one up. Good luck!

Not sure yet... I'll push for Sat but no guarantees.

Even higher at Intel but then again we don't do primarily software...

Too bad scott_harpell doesn't post here anymore... he should be looking for work

now I do supply chain management shoulda been a business major ahh so you work in shipping and receiving. can you fill out my fed ex forms for me? thanks No but I rather do that than HR work