John Frieh

I hope Jason got a monster lift and a winch on his Jeep... Adams road/mtn conditions

Where was it in 1970? Sleeping on the job?

AlpineDave borrowed Roger's fruit boots for the expert route (cough cough cheater cough cough) and Todd (doesn't post here) had someone's homemade pair which had what looked like grade 8s bolted on (not a pon I am considering). I've talked to 2 people so far but both have only used the raptor (and just so happen to work for BD)... was hoping to hear a little more about the racing... I know bigwalling has a pair... anybody else? Edit: with that said the raptor does sound like a good pon.

Stuart.

BD Raptor or Grivel Racing Crampon... anybody used/tried/own/know somebody/etc etc? Give me a shout if so... I'd like to pick your brain s if you can help me out

Just so you know WTB stands for Want To Buy... he WANTS TO BUY those weight amounts... not give them away/sale them

Good times good times! I honestly didn't think that many people would show... guess it goes to show the bulk of PDX ccers are lurkers Big to AFIVE for getting the word out! Good luck with that stacked fist fest project (let me know if you want to borrow those #4s). Big to Timmy for yet another entertaining slide show. though for hitting on my girl. When shall we have the next PDX pub club? I vote midweek! Maybe we can have a pub club at the circuit

I heard an inversion was parked over Hood for Tuesday and Wednesday so nothing has really been consolidating (which could be an explain for the crust Marcus observed). Go climb I rock

Come on down to smith dude! You can crash at my house in either direction

Do you plan on using them to approach winter climbs? In other words do you plan on using plactic climbing boots as ski boots on some occasions (so you don't have to carry 2 pair of boots)? FYI for anyone OMC in PDX is having a sale/consignment on the 12th... might be worth checking out

Training for winter:

Training for winter or training during winter???

Approach wise road is gated at MP 170 on the east side. WA pass is at MP 163. Snowmobilers use this road often so generally travel on the road is cake... snow is packed so one can cover a lot of ground. It is not uncommon for people to cover the distance from the gate to the blue lake parking lot in the same amount of time it takes to go from blue lake parking lot to the base of the route. Assuming you have a weather window one could easily do the Beckey route in winter in a weekend (or shorter?) but weather and avy concerns will dictate amount of success. The approach gully is a place I wouldn't want to be if avy was considerable. Speaking of avys: many of the snowmobilers like to play highpoint in the avy gullies. Don't cross under them while this is going on if the avy is a consideration.

bump Wednesday night: pub club 5ish - 6:30ish pm at the low brow lounge and then Timmy O'Neill slide show at Patagonia.

I'll buy a pitcher at the low brow this wednesday for the first pdx cc.comer that posts pics here

Who's going email her?

Deja vu? A cc.com version?

I think you should go get one of those cheap pairs from FF... that way if you don't like them you aren't out a chunk of change Alp wings, light wings, rages, quarks, cobras, aztars, vipers... take your pick... they're all fine!

I'm just razzing Dr C as this has to be his 10th ice tool thread in the past 6 months... at this rate he might figure out which tools he wants by next year's ice season

Yes all your points are something to consider but at the end of the day they will not stop you from climbing WI6 (or whatever your goal is). What will stop you from achieving your goals is wasting your time hemming and hawing on a webpage and not training/climbing on your tools. Ice season is here... you should be at least a month into your training regime! If you are still worried Barry Blanchard climbed Infinite Patience with a light wing and an alp wing. Karen McNeill climbed the Cassin with a pair of Aztars. And I can guarantee you it wasn't the tools they took they determined if they made it or not.

Does this mean they will turn people away or you will just have to stand if you are late...?

Got any monsters laying around? PM me if you do and want to sale them

Tuesday night: DT at Rocky 4:30 - ? If interested PM me! Wednesday night: pub club 5-7 pm at the low brow lounge and then Timmy O'Neill slide show at Patagonia.

Good times Shoulda brought my spurs though BIG THANKS to Mike Palmer for puttting this on and Roger Strong for all the demo gear and interesting route setting!

Meadows was nice on Sunday... the hidden steep hard ice kept you on your toes (or on your face if you weren't paying attention)... we found more pow pow and less ice in the trees