John Frieh

Good times good times! I honestly didn't think that many people would show... guess it goes to show the bulk of PDX ccers are lurkers Big to AFIVE for getting the word out! Good luck with that stacked fist fest project (let me know if you want to borrow those #4s). Big to Timmy for yet another entertaining slide show. though for hitting on my girl. When shall we have the next PDX pub club? I vote midweek! Maybe we can have a pub club at the circuit

I heard an inversion was parked over Hood for Tuesday and Wednesday so nothing has really been consolidating (which could be an explain for the crust Marcus observed). Go climb I rock

Come on down to smith dude! You can crash at my house in either direction

Do you plan on using them to approach winter climbs? In other words do you plan on using plactic climbing boots as ski boots on some occasions (so you don't have to carry 2 pair of boots)? FYI for anyone OMC in PDX is having a sale/consignment on the 12th... might be worth checking out

Training for winter:

Training for winter or training during winter???

Approach wise road is gated at MP 170 on the east side. WA pass is at MP 163. Snowmobilers use this road often so generally travel on the road is cake... snow is packed so one can cover a lot of ground. It is not uncommon for people to cover the distance from the gate to the blue lake parking lot in the same amount of time it takes to go from blue lake parking lot to the base of the route. Assuming you have a weather window one could easily do the Beckey route in winter in a weekend (or shorter?) but weather and avy concerns will dictate amount of success. The approach gully is a place I wouldn't want to be if avy was considerable. Speaking of avys: many of the snowmobilers like to play highpoint in the avy gullies. Don't cross under them while this is going on if the avy is a consideration.

bump Wednesday night: pub club 5ish - 6:30ish pm at the low brow lounge and then Timmy O'Neill slide show at Patagonia.

I'll buy a pitcher at the low brow this wednesday for the first pdx cc.comer that posts pics here

Who's going email her?

Deja vu? A cc.com version?

I think you should go get one of those cheap pairs from FF... that way if you don't like them you aren't out a chunk of change Alp wings, light wings, rages, quarks, cobras, aztars, vipers... take your pick... they're all fine!

I'm just razzing Dr C as this has to be his 10th ice tool thread in the past 6 months... at this rate he might figure out which tools he wants by next year's ice season

Yes all your points are something to consider but at the end of the day they will not stop you from climbing WI6 (or whatever your goal is). What will stop you from achieving your goals is wasting your time hemming and hawing on a webpage and not training/climbing on your tools. Ice season is here... you should be at least a month into your training regime! If you are still worried Barry Blanchard climbed Infinite Patience with a light wing and an alp wing. Karen McNeill climbed the Cassin with a pair of Aztars. And I can guarantee you it wasn't the tools they took they determined if they made it or not.

Does this mean they will turn people away or you will just have to stand if you are late...?

Got any monsters laying around? PM me if you do and want to sale them

Tuesday night: DT at Rocky 4:30 - ? If interested PM me! Wednesday night: pub club 5-7 pm at the low brow lounge and then Timmy O'Neill slide show at Patagonia.

Good times Shoulda brought my spurs though BIG THANKS to Mike Palmer for puttting this on and Roger Strong for all the demo gear and interesting route setting!

Meadows was nice on Sunday... the hidden steep hard ice kept you on your toes (or on your face if you weren't paying attention)... we found more pow pow and less ice in the trees

They're fine assuming you can return them to their original state/sharpness. A lot of drytooling tends to round the very front of the pick and unless you significantly shorten the pick you never seem to return the pick to its original shape/sharpness. I would second Chad's recommendation on having a dedicated pair of drytool picks... better yet buy a pair of the T rated picks as they are equipped with a larger front tooth and teeth on the top of the pick so your tool doesn't skate when you stein pull... you will feel a difference (especially when trying to hook on sloping edges). If you do end up opting to dedicate one pair of picks for just drytooling, spray paint them with automotive paint or something so you can tell them apart from all your other picks.

Hey! It's RuMR!

Keep getting out!

In case someone else is wondering... 1/2 size down from your boot size if you plan to wear them all day with a thick sock... a full size down if you are looking for a rock shoe fit and plan on wearing super thin socks.

Those weren't flames. If you are going to make a comparison make sure there is some legitimacy to your claims.

Unless you're talking about STDs