OlympicMtnBoy

Nice job keeping it warm (or at least not frozen).

I didn't wanna have to be the one to say it first. ;-) Nice job though Lisa, looks like fun! At this rate we'll have exactly the same conditions when we hit winter.

Da pants woulda fit me, that's what's wrong. Jackets are easier to find. :-(

I've got one of the golite vests, silnylon in the back, breathable nylon in the front. I think it rarely gets cold enough around here that I'm wearing my puffy insulation while working hard. It does work but I end up with the top rear of my pants getting wet instead, not sure which is more uncomfortable. I keep mine around just in case it's gonna be below zero (F) on a multiday trip.

I find a tiny nail puller hammer works great, look in the hardware store with the crowbars. It's about the same length as my nut tool but has a tiny hammer head. It's easier to deal with when clean aiding than a normal hammer.

Somebody go beat down the fresh snow so i can get on it next week.

I don't know about newer chipsets and stuff, my Garmin Geko 301 is a tad slow and doesn't work as well under really heavy tree cover, but in practice I take waypoints anytime I stop for a minute and it works great, I've never been in a forest so thick I couldn't find a patch of sky within 15 mins. It's worked great for mountaineering. I won't argue with folks with newer ones though or fancy electronic maps (weight is a concern for me too). The 301 is on sale at mgear.com for $130.

Mine went through at the right price ($28) no prob, but it took a few tries to get things to finally load right. Sweet deal!

I'd probably just clip a biner on it and rack it like a cam. I wonder how prone the sling will be to freezing into the ice. Pheww, $75? I still kick myself for not buying more of the Petzl's when REI had em for like $30 a couple seasons ago. The one I have remains my favorite screw.

The WA Ice book has some rumors listed. The most reliable stuff I've seen forms up at Lake Angeles, normally short bits of WI3, but sometimes more. I was up there late one fall before the snow (and no tools) and saw some beautiful stuff formed after a cold snap. It's a bit of a hike and then a trek around the lake to get to though. There are rumors of things forming up on Washington but I haven't been around there in winter enough, not sure about Townsend, tends to be a tad warmer but maybe. I'd love to see that stuff coming down from Lake of the Angels freeze too, but I think we gotta stop global warming and wear avalanche proof suits. I have no doubt there are plenty of neat winter climbs that never get visited if you are willing to make a long trek on skis or snowshoes to discover.

My Garmin Gecko 301 has a built in barometric altimeter but no fancy map displays and stuff. They are pretty easy to use and mine has held up really well over the last 4 or 5 years I've had it. They are only around $150 now, maybe less for the holidays. It's great for taking waypoints to follow back and checking your altitude and stuff.

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Hehe, sounds like a fun time anyways and you've got a great attitude. Glad your system kept you off the slabs. Leaning Tower is a great solo too although maybe easier than what you were looking for. Rapping back in to my pig and cleaning the last pitch was the scariest exposure I've had yet, 40 feet out from the wall and many hundreds to the ground with nothing in between and no one nearby to hear me scream. That traverse to the base is fun with a haul bag on too.

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Well hell, I'll volunteer for this thread too! When you wanna go Tvash?

PM me if yer still looking. I had a good class last winter and could use some practice too. Not the most experienced obviously but I come with instructional manuals and was doing pretty good with oxy-acetylene and MIG.

Yates, Fish, and Mountaintools are the only other ones I know (Metolius is much cheaper so I send those cams there anyways), I've also heard BD will resling BD cams. I don't know of anyone local.

I got a BC set up this spring and I'm a crappy skier all around, will that work? I also got a season pass to snoqualmie so maybe i can figure out how to drive better if anyone wants to lift ski too or hit the backcountry from there.

The sunny high temp of 46 and low of 33 at 8600 today should soften things a bit for the skiing anyways. :-(

Nice job, looks like fun! I was down there a couple weeks before you but just doing short free climbs. Fall in the valley is nice!

I can do tuesday, check your PMs.

Nice job Chad and Nate! Just one question, you came all the way up here and didn't call me because??? :-p

I'll PM you Suzan Bobette's email. She's been doing an outdoor gear sewing class in her basement and has an industrial machine and stuff. She's done a bunch of rafting gear and makes musical instrument cases and other beefy gear, she'd probably be excited to do a project like that (and maybe cheaper than Rainy Pass).

Try the chossy stuff near the Renton drytool crag off hwy 900. Bring a brush to clean out the cracks. There is a bit you can nail on a ways left of the drytool routes, probably plenty more if you wander around. PM me if you want a partner, I need to practice placing copper heads one of these days. - S

I have the old folded stapled exit 32 guide. It lists a bunch of routes on Rattlesnake Ledge that seem to have since disappeared into oblivion. Old books are pretty fun sometimes. I have a great hand drawn and written squamish book too.