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Ya, but were they good looking?

It is my priviledge and police enforced right to have my Western Burger exactly as I want it!

This line of questioning seems vaguely familiar, but I know it isn't the case because Specialed would never troll.

You have to ask yourself is it worth it. Maybe you'll get used to the extra wieght?

Let the record state that I won todays debate by outlasting KK.

Many people who oppose government social programs are extremely generous regarding charitable contributions and community involvement. The opposition is to HOW these causes are funded and selected by individuals. Moreover, there is a lot of disagreement about how efficiently government administers to these program, whether it is truly "compassionate" (governments are not intrinsically compassionate, and neither are bureaucracies), and where the accountability lies. It is thoroughly disingenuous, if not outright slanderous, to state that Christians who oppose big-government social programs are not "compassionate". I'm at a loss as to what you're qouting above, but I am great friends with plenty of Christians that are as compassionate as anyone. Last I checked governments are run by people. People are all over the map as far as compassion. Perhaps those that might go into public service (i.e. a goverment position that deals with government sponsored "compassion") might tend to be more compassionate? Certainly they aren't doing it to get rich. At least these people are mandated by laws to not sell a religion to their customers (as the seperation between church and state exists). Can the same be enforced for government subsidized churchs providing "compassion"? It is the nature of Christians to evangalize...that is what they are supposed to do. So you end up mixing government funded religion outreach programs. Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems to be a bad idea. Is the seperation between church and state something we should retain?

Be careful with your broad strokes again KK....the swastika (at least the particular one you're referring to here) represents a particular regime. Communism is a idea not a regime. Perhaps wearing a item that supports a particular viscious version of communism (and the acts of that regime) I would regard the same as a Nazi swastika. But the repression of thought is a bad idea.

I've seen these people. It is primarily seems to be a "fashion statement". If you ask them what Che means to them, they'll probably just say "revolution"...and do they want a real revolution?....usually not. They are not true commies, they just want to look cool. The real commies that you should be worried about wear chinese army hats.

Don't get all liberal on me and start inferring how I was "acting"! Any rational person can recognize that demonization happens on both sides. I was specifically referring to the semantics of the term "liberal".

The information you left out is what you're eating.

You seem all too willing to continue to throw that poor baby out with the bath water. In any policy debate all Dems and of course the media which they undoubtably control, all republicans are branded as neocons? "There is no differentiation."? If you paint the situation as black and white, it certainly makes it easier to argue a point, doesn't it? I was merely pointing out a tendancy to use the word "liberal" as a negative term...which by true definition is a very general term...not indicting everyone right of center.

Sure..."neocon" and "radical conservative" are used in a negative sense...but don't those tend to indicate the extreme right? One can be liberal, yet not extreme left. Is it just a right wing tendancy to throw the baby out with the bath water?

Call it if you want. I'll just repeat my message over and over until it becomes truth! Maybe I am inaccurate (how liberal of me! ), but I have never heard "conservative" used like a dirty word....and I heard the word "liberal" spat around almost every day. "Just another liberal from Massachusetts" etc...

Today, the correct enunciation of the word "liberal" seems involves spitting it out like it is a dirty word. This has been mastered by the right wing talk show hosts. Just the label is enough to damn someone, as if they are the lowest of creatures. The antonym "conservative" doesn't have the same stigma...not because it isn't just as deserving...but because of the success the right wingers have had in selling the tag "liberal" as in somehow being negative. It is driven more by slanderous rumors than fact....talk show hosts jump on "rumors" and talk about them until they somehow are transformed into "facts" because of shear repetition, not because of any substantiation.

Ssshhh.....we need to keep this little climbing area as our own deep dark secret. Nobody needs to know! Especially not the climbing press!

Is this still on? Trying to iron out my weekend plans here. It is looking like "showers" this weekend.

It was an alternate ending for me: In the end, the welded tuff proved to be a harsh mistress as I fell off the beginner route I was attempting to shuffle/lead up and injured my ankle. While I will return again and again to this sport climbing wonderland, it will always be tuff love relationship for me. Then Teddy Ruxpin performed ritualistic suicide by jumping into a burning pyre.

you forgot the bit about me dribbling slings and cams everywhere I went.

Climber's Guide to the Olympic Mountains

I'll climb the Tooth so that you will not have to.

1 in 135,145,920 chance to win the Lottery 1 in 4,500 chance to die of influenza or pneumonia 1 in 9,200 chance to die of suicide 1 in 14,000 chance to die of homocide Good luck Harry!

"I've got you under my skin...."

Squidles, does your cunning plan include an alpine opera? How about pogo sticks?

Anyone try one of these badboys out? Seems a little steep for a pogo stick....is this the newest rage in mountaineering? Will I be the last at Camp 4 to have one?