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thats his follow up post. the one I quoted above is the meat you really want to read.

There is more discussion by WCC representatives over on Facebook too. Its too bad the discussion is taking place there instead of a forum like this, were you can view stuff without having to be a logged in Facebook user. Hopefully some of those people can comment here.

Sorry that happened to you Sean. I saw via Facebook that just the other day there was another case of thieves using the noise of the train going by to mask them breaking windows on all the cars in the parking lot to steal stuff out of them. Jerks and thieves do suck. That the gear was taken from your pack sucks, because that could be another climber. Seems like a meth-head would just take the whole pack. FYI, I don't think anyone here has a problem with you not recommending Index. Seems like its crowded enough these days. I do suppose that more consistent traffic helps keep the moss at bay though. It does seem like you're stating that we all might be jerks and thieves, and that because of that you're never coming back. I mean, probably not..... Sorry that happened to you, good luck with your travels. Can you describe the gear on the off chance it might be recovered somehow?

Good one brihuang! I agree, would help with post dated TRs.

nice capris Rat is sporting there

awesome vid

Awesome, thanks for sharing Fred!

would love to see those slides if you have a method to scan kascadia!

Ivan, someday you and I should hook up to do the Flagpole. You can lead all the hard pitches.

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Nice! Great pictures. Gotta love these longer days.

Awesome, I've been wanting to do this for a while now. This reminded me that I should go do it. And I love that hike through the Silent Men. Great TR, great pics.

Lets hear it!

this is the picture that got me into climbing

PM or email billygoat. He is a Lopez islander, showed me a spot on the southern part of the island on Watmough Bay. Same rock as Erie, though there isn't much.

maybe get car manufacturers to put a system in that if the car is driven under 85 miles an hour for a 30 minute period the doors lock and the car explodes

"They say slowpokes who take over the left lane are problematic because they can actually cause acts of road rage when a faster driver comes up behind them and gets stuck, then streaks by on the right in a fit of anger." Sounds to me like the problem is more the function of some idiot with a burr up their ass looking for a reason to have a fit of anger. So is the cop actually saying the road rage is justified? Its just a fluff piece on a car blog anyway. SLOW LEFT LANE DRIVERS UNITE!

I like to drive slow in the left lane to help others avoid speeding tickets. i consider community service.

did you guys ever share a sheep?

really, all caps dave? [video:youtube]LoF_a0-7xVQ

I really think you're putting words in people's mouths when you say they are "ok with it". I think most people may not be "ok with it" but also might be disenfranchised from anything even remotely involving politics and have just decided to to deal with what ever hand they have been dealt the best they can. As for permits, I can see them being useful in targeted areas that are seeing overuse and destruction of the environment. out side of that, I think they shouldn't exist. But I also think that federal areas should be free to visit and fully funded by the resources that are drawn from them across the land.