olyclimber

Not as good or as funny as Monty Python references I'm afraid.

Not a lecture, just musings. Do you see yourself as one of those people?

I guess maybe its tit for tat, but perpetuating the cycle doesn't make you look good or smart or anything.

its always strange to see people (from any perspective) prop their argument up with insults, belittlement, and assumptions about the others point of view. even stranger when they do it over and over again. I assume that this is the result of personal problems. Why do those here who insist on doing it think they do it? Or do you not even realize that you're doing it? Or do you get off on it? I'm not talking about one person here. [video:youtube]ya9El4_qyzQ

When I have free time, I find it is best to spend it changing hearts and minds on the internet.

I too am LITERALLY SICK TO MY STOMACH OVER THE PARTISAN BICKERING AND HISTRIONIC GRANDSTANDING!!!!!!!! [video:youtube]pO4M99rG8Qc

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Jesus....which one of you guys is right??? You both seem pretty sure. Maybe there are two realities. [video:youtube]yo_7txCQrvM

Very cool Otto! those are beautiful. Keep them coming guys!

we get a day.

Its a control...what do you need to post an ebay auction for? The real rule for ebay that we have right now is that you're not supposed to advertise your ebay gear auction here. If you want to sell your gear and get the word out on CC.com, then just list it straight up for sale at a set price. The control just makes it so mods don't have to continually police for ebay auctions.

awesome piece of kit. someone should remake it in those exact colors with quality fabrics and sell it

Just chiming in to take this opportunity to *agree* with Mattp on a political thread. In 2014. Ditto. photocopy.

OMG THE DANGER!!!!

Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

sorry bruh...post on CC.com. time heals.

Yeah I really do think! Its like RAAAAIIINNNNNNN~~!!!!!

Wow that is some really cool stuff Lowell! How old is that avie transceiver?

Bowing out. Have a great Thanksgiving all, hope you get outside and do something fun! Until next time.

Nice, and thank you! Yep, I had some cool old gear, but I decided our house was too small to have such stuff laying around. Now I have some great old books, those are my favorite historical possessions. I'll try to get a photo, but I have some nice old PNW climbing books. Which of those books is your favorite? I don't think I've seen any of them but that "Routes and Rocks" book. Now some of you have to have some old axes, crampons, protection, or booty from the days of old. Lets see it!

It's not the President's place to tell Congress to do anything. In fact, the American people regularly gridlock govt at the midterm to check the executive branch. Works both ways. It's also worth noting, FYI, that bills are supposed to originate in the House. The fact that Harry Reid's Senate came up with an Obama rubber-stamp bill means jack. Then, of course, there is always the lack of action during the 2009-2011 Democrat-controlled Congress. Obama has played politics with the law, with the recent election he thought Democrats had a chance-in-hell of winning, and with the lives of the very immigrants he claims to champion. Bills are supposed to originate in the House. check Harry Reid rubber stamp. check lack of action of some historical Congress. check. Obama has played politics within the law. check. Thought they had a chance of winning? I bet he knew they wouldn't. Championing immigrants? Who will then? Should we? I guess Congress is going to figure that out! It's settled then. Congress will have to sort it out. After they neuter the dick-tater. If they can do it (sort it out...just owning both houses should do the neuter bit if that makes you happy), they'll have my support. But you do know that the erosion the limits of executive power started with W of course right????? LOL But i sincerely don't see the conservatives pulling this out...they are all over the map! Half of them want to send them back to Mexico on a boat.

Funny thing is one thing that seems to inhibit non-inflammatory discussion here is the unlikelihood that we are likely to make a point or impression on someone with an opposing viewpoint...we are more likely to raise their hackles. When there is little middle ground, its hard to find sympathy for your foe. We are all here for climbing or skiing mostly, or at least we arrived here because of those things. I'm afraid the best we can do is remember those things that we share and try to find our common ground. This isn't the plight of just the people of this board, but of everyone these days, or at least it seems to me.

It's not the President's place to tell Congress to do anything. In fact, the American people regularly gridlock govt at the midterm to check the executive branch. Works both ways. It's also worth noting, FYI, that bills are supposed to originate in the House. The fact that Harry Reid's Senate came up with an Obama rubber-stamp bill means jack. Then, of course, there is always the lack of action during the 2009-2011 Democrat-controlled Congress. Obama has played politics with the law, with the recent election he thought Democrats had a chance-in-hell of winning, and with the lives of the very immigrants he claims to champion. Bills are supposed to originate in the House. check Harry Reid rubber stamp. check lack of action of some historical Congress. check. Obama has played politics within the law. check. Thought they had a chance of winning? I bet he knew they wouldn't. Championing immigrants? Who will then? Should we? I guess Congress is going to figure that out!

Nice Kurt...you make that?