glassgowkiss

You probably can still do it now, without any additional hardware. You would have to just follow a free variation, which includes so-so protected 10c traverse, 5.8 downclimb and then instead of doing keelhaul pitch, following 5.11+ corner paralleling old 5.9 "Keelhaul". It deposits you right at the bottom of the 2 chimney pitches, leading to Big Sandy Ledge.

Not so fast: http://www.newsweek.com/2014/08/22/why-were-definitely-not-headed-another-ice-age-264633.html

Btw KKK and FW, "patriotic" rhetoric of people you vote for can be summed up with this: T-A=0. Here is an example: Reuters in February posted “U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans’ health bill on budget worry“: U.S. Senate Republicans blocked legislation on Thursday that would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for veterans, saying the $24 billion bill would bust the budget. Even though the legislation cleared a procedural vote on Tuesday by a 99-0 vote, the measure quickly got bogged down in partisan fighting. Supporters said the measure would have brought the most significant changes in decades to U.S. veterans’ programs. For example, it called for 27 new medical facilities to help a healthcare system that is strained by veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. […] Referring to recent budget deals that aim to bring down federal deficits, Republican Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama said: “This bill would spend more than we agreed to spend. The ink is hardly dry and here we have another bill to raise that spending again.”

I do not particularly agree with Paul and I don't share his views, but at least guy has some decent level of integrity and is not a corporate bought whore.

In local terms it's the modern Republican Party, which is bent on reinstating feudal system and financial enslavement. your Russian masters well have taught you the use of bullshit rhetoric Unlike you, I just refuse to be a corporate cock sucking drone. Refusing to accept policies, that are directly agains my self interest and trying to rob me out of my hard earned cash hardly makes me a socialist, but rather a pragmatist. On the other hand you just blindly follow indoctrinating rhetoric, which is what members of the communist party do.

Calcium channel blockers can be extremely dangerous, because of it's side effects. For one, I did not see much of a benefit after struggling with my out of control Raynauds after my appendectomy. And the blood pressure drop can be radical during periods of physical exertion, even leading to blackouts. I don't thin one should take such risks with ice climbing. Raunauds is considered an auto-immune condition, so approach should reflecting the fact. What worked for me, and what allowed me to resume my winter activity were diet changes, and lowering my stress.

In local terms it's the modern Republican Party, which is bent on reinstating feudal system and financial enslavement.

Yes, corporate welfare and corporate socialism are so OK.

2 pitches simply fell off, so basically Reg NW Half Dome is no longer climbable in normal old school way. 5.9 pitch after Robinson Traverse and Keyhole Pitch are no longer there.

Lesson learned: if boyz be gettin' ornery talkin' bout politics and social issues, remember, we are all united in our love of watching gratuitous violence and looking at boobies Like the Colonel says: chicks and guns!

And some a-holes were on the Crest last afternoon (6/21).

I am on the side of logic, unlike you. Explain us please oh enlighten one! Why is it that every fucking time Republicans take White House, there is a stock market crash or banking collapse, followed by a recession? October 19, 1987 (Reagan), 1989 Savings and Loans collapse, followed by 1990-91 recession (Bush Senior), September 15 2008 Lehman Brothers collapse, triggering The Great Depression (GW Bush). Somehow looking at these facts, Republican claims about economic prowess of their policies don't match the reality.

Let's see, remember 2007, assclown? The biggest economic misery since 1920's WAS inflicted by Republican administration, through deregulation and trickle down economics. 2001-2007 was the very same disaster as soviet era centralized planning. You have to be either stupid or utterly ignorant not to see the facts as they are. I guess in case of republican logic stupid and ignorant go hand in hand.

BS. I don't listen to Limbaugh. When I have I find his arguments too one-sided and simplistic. There is never an acknowledgement or consideration of the other POV. He is a Republican with a capital R; I am not. I don't even fall that close in line with FW. He is much closer to a Republican than I am. Conservative? On what? Fiscal issues - sure, to some extent. But R's don't actually walk the walk that they talk do they? Social issues? Like church in school, gay marriage, legalized pot.... not so much. The comic is stupid and the prefatory comment is a bullshit cheap shot. If AlpineK wants to take pot shots like that, I'll fire back. But I agree that it is like shooting fish in a barrel in his case. Hahaha, big bullshit on that one. You are like a friggin heroin junkie, who claims that track marks are "spider bites" and you are clean. But a blood tests actually show a different story. Face it- you are Republican with capital R. Your differences with FW are minor, the fact is you pretty much agree with him 100%.

Bullshit. You prefaced the picture with this comment: "In a detailed study, soon to be released, it seems Fairweather and KK are the sickly and abandoned offspring of Rush Limbaugh It's good to see how far they've progressed from such humble beginings" Keep doing that and expect to get a middle finger. all you back paddling now just shows more of you- a tasteless, humorless fuckwad.

I am sure you watch jerry springer all the time. I find white trash knuckleheads (male of female) fighting way less entertaining then you I guess.

i am sure, you are a genius.

Really glassgowkiss? You might want to read a bit more carefully before calling people out. Raindawg never made any claims about free climbing related Numbah10: It was implicit in his statement. He has made claims like this of other routes... NO it wasn't implied. Some folks around here are quick to react but slow to read and comprehend. I'll try to make it easier for you to understand. The example: Numbah 10 at Index. - It goes clean on aid. In other words, it takes removable gear although several pieces are small if not sketchy. - Instead of waiting until someone with the ability to come along, or for gear to improve, it was decided to place a line of closely-spaced bolts alongside the crack for the immediate gratification of those who wanted to climb it "free", probably with the idea that climbing the route free is "superior" to that of using aid, even if it means extensive use of bolts next to a crack. (And by the way, it also dumbed-down the aid route although the bolts can be skipped if one wants to experience more of the original character of the climb.) My opinion: they should have just left it alone until someone with the skill and audacity could lead it free on gear. (Yes...not everything needs to be climbed NOW or ever.) Do I care if anyone can or will climb Numbah 10 free and clean? No, I genuinely don't. I just resent the attitude that it's O.K. to do what was done there. Now, this is a total pile of shit statement. Of course you were implying, at least have some balls and stand by your initial statement.

Nobody gives a flying fuck about what you want.

Still haven't seen a report about you sending free Numbah10 on lead on gear. Until then, shut the fuck up.

Seriously, without a light AT setup it will be next to impossible to beat current time.

Chip, you have it backwards. The fact I am not joining your circle jerk doesn't make my person toxic, obviously you are totally passive aggressive person, having hard time coping with reality of life. I am done talking to the clowns like you. My advise here is go and climb something, enjoy your life , put up a route, repeat a route, instead of beat your chest in internet. If you or Raindawg can do this route, lead by example, lead it with no bolts. I will remove them after your ascent. Other wise shut the fuck up and start posting in spray, because honestly that is where your reply belong.

Haven't heard that kind of bet since I was 9 years old at recess during 4th grade, or later by adult clowns on cc.com who can't deal with the philosophy of the issues. You obviously missed the point. It doesn't matter if I'm in a wheelchair or can climb 5.18......what I have to say stands on its own principle. I don't really care if it's ever free-climbed, but forcing it by adding a line of bolts next to a crack is disrespectful and narcissistic. Plenty of that around here! P.S. And "Choada-Boy"...enjoy the schoolyard dog-pile....it's expected. Comparing to 9 year old- well buddy, I just called your bullshit, now you are backpedaling like a 9 year old caught lying to his parents. The fact is you said this particular route can be done on lead, free climbed with natural gear, and I responded if you think so, show the rest of us how it's done or shut the fuck up. All you do is spew nonsense, but yet you have zero track record of ability to back up your statements. So if you think Numbah10 is a bolted crack, please lead it (free) without clipping the bolts. If your ascent is confirmed, I will personally remove the bolts and pay you $200 for the ascent. Now I don't want to see more spray on your part and backpedaling bullshit. All I want to see is a report stating you have done so. Otherwise I consider this topic closed, with no further need to waste bandwidth on utterly unproductive spray.

dude, if you even want to be remotely taken into consideration in this exchange, stop posting stupid pictures as a reply, and use written language as most adults do.

I think you are mistaking an opinion in general, with a comment made about climbing style on particular route.