billcoe

I forgot the next item in sequence.....let's see, ya got yer bolt the route and then more pro. What was next?

Bryan, i've done some scrambing around over there in between water skiing, and although nothing is top notch, you can find places to stretch out a bit. I don't remember finding a place you could drop into the water either. Might consider finding a partner and doing the piller out that way. You could free it, I think there's a couple of 10 pitches on the 1 route, like 10a to start, a traverse thing and then 10d but it's been years. Almost forgot the name of it. Steins pillar. Yup, I understand that theres been some new routes on it since I've been there like 15 years ago. Do a search on this site, might be able to just head over there and find someone to hook up with on the spot, it's worth doing IMO, but I've only done 1 route on it and theres more than that.

Gdammit Abbie I hope you find the gear and if theft is the case the party (s) that stole it. May they be found and tried in a stict Islamic court and have a hand amputated. If you could post better details (shoe size, color, what kind/brand of knife, which model bd headlamp etc) it may aid in recovering the stuff if a bunch of climbers are all looking on ebay etc etc. Report it to the police and post it on Rockclimbing.com and supertopo as well I would. Good luck,... that just sucks. On a cold Feb day years ago I met the 2 guys who had (unbeknownst to us) stolen some of our gear left on Monkee. After a brief trail discussion - we were the only people over there that weekend, (hello etc etc) turns out they ran back to our VW van in the Smith Parking lot and put the stuff back inside of our vehical for us.

Sending good vibs out to the injure party: good luck and speedy recovery. ____________________________________________________ Perhaps Mike is concerned that you built some fires for drying yourselves out? I heard that might be an issue. I understand that the tree limbs and twigs are suppose to rot or stay put as fuel for forest fires.

Toast, GET THEE TO A DOCTOR POST HASTE. Don't diagnose yourself and ask a bunch of internet junkies.

My bad muff I'll know better next time.

Pairing your stronger reds like Merlot and Cabernet with classic Trad climbs has been a the norm since climbing began. Chardonay pairs well with easy, short, 1/2 pitch sport climbs. Don't reverse them - major Faux-Pax.

Only until he graduates and starts making twice th emoney the rest of us are and making people happy as hell when he makes the pain go away to boot. I'll yell fer ya Mike!

Acually the phrase " like a 1 legged man at an ass-kicking contest" comes to mind, so go for it! Is it on the other side of Garfield 10 feet on the wrong side of a sign that says "wilderness boundry" BTW.....?

umm kay is he in the phone book under "joesph"?? UMMMM No, but based on your reaction I might have misjudged. I suspected (based on the spelling) that you were the anonomys poster dissing him on another thread. nevermind, sorry. Trolling for a reaction, now I have another suspect under suspicion. Nothing to see here folks:

The most humorous part of that Dru is that at least half of those posts may be you argueing with yourself!

"Our Best Capilene: for soaking up the moisture during the hot times".

______________________________________________________ I think Alabama and Mississippi tried that as well and were roundly rebuffed. Far as that goes, there are only a handful of citizens in those 2 states who can even spell Soccur. - socer. - socker. - soccker. - soker. - soccerr. - socceer, WTF? Football.

Mikey said: Oh oh, the plot thickens. Can all this wait until I do the route? Guess I need to get off my ass and roadtrip. My standards are obviously lower than lots of other peoples.

OMG you are soooo damn funny dude! Jim Robinson started calling it Bill's Buttress which I like and started using to refer to it, but it's not to late to switch and use your name! Choice! Yer probably still picking the dirt out of your teeth and yer ears? Needs a bit more cleaning.... with a steam shovel, presure washer and dynamite maybe. BTW, started cleaning right and worked my way left. There is an undone route on the left which has the top 25' cleaned, and it has a 15' finger crack to top out, looks like it might be a 5.6 face under the dirt off the deck to get to the crack. Might be the best route out there under all that dirt. Clean that line, finish the lower areas that have been climbed but are atill dirty, brush off the entire routes top to bottom again, add some bolts and voila! Done.

You flailed? I don't believe it. Besides, wasn't it wet?

holy crap bill i think you may have found one of the only treds i did not post on Hola Muff! Looks like you rectified that issue in short order ! BTW, next time you get out this way, look Joseph up, good guy, you'd really enjoy his company.

Wayne, are you denying that it's your picture on the cover then!? Actually, hard to say what the insides look like. Might be great. Could be real good route descriptions. Like they might have taken Jim A's manuscript and then done every route in it? And then again.......... Later dude~!

Hi Muffy, Re: your message, I would chalk all that up more to lazyness. Also, it's not like that with Joseph. You should climb with him. He's really a pretty good guy. Pretty darn smart as well. Really. RE:

Whos up for a game of "Where are they now"?

I think I'm turning into Dru. The site is taking over my life and I find myself now in spray discussing pointless banalities with strangers instead of managing this ever burgening workload on my desk right in front of me. Help

Rhythm method, dude. Opdyke named a route we did Rhythm Method. No pro. Taking your chances.

______________________________________________________ Hey Noob, where hell have ya been?

Interesting statement Dru. Dru, thank you for explaining the RC.com version of this question. I do hear your arguement a lot as well for other people, that is, if someone thinks they can just stick in a bolt any particular place cause they want two, (established route where there were none) then it is as acceptable or even more so, your right to pull it if you want two for the same reason. Like you, I don't think all the jawing will change people opinions on this. People will do what they want two do and justify it later. So why even talk about it? No one will change their opinion unless it's maybe just some Noob Gym climber who doesn't know any better learning from some of the elders what proper protocal is on this I guess. As far as having Freedom goes, I thought you were Canadian and still kissing the Queens ass? So theoretically she should be telling you where two put the bolts or when two pull them out.

The American Way at work: But well see.