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Just finished Hornet Flight by Ken Follett (ww2 thriller). Wayyyyyyyyyy good, although slightly weak/predictable ending IMO. The Pillars of the Earth good, that's how good it was.

Agree with Carolyn above. At Rocky (whre the pdx alpine anonomys group therapy seesion meets) the DT pretty much stays left of Silver Bullet with an occasional mistep here or there. Yes it starts to scar the rock, but if its a quarry, and if they want to pull loose flakes off with picks:-), well, wear a helmet and accept my thanks! Course if it's a man made area, like a bridge: it's another chocolate cupcake then. BTW, we use to nail (pitons) a bridge back in the day. That was aid, and some overdriving did occur, with the resultant pinscars. I'm not making any judgements, but I wasn't the one overdriving:-) But I do know what you are talking about, but it hasn't been an issue anywhere around here ....yet. Course, times change so well see, maybe some folks will transfer DT to sacred lands (Beacon). Folks get to get some good practice.

BTW, I'd like to commend all of you (guys) for not talking sh*t about how long she would have to be dead before you wouldn't hit it.

I'm betting Karen Carpenter Disease. Want to bet?

First: thanks Mike! I'd highly recommend Mike. He's pretty much all but got the diploma, if you want to step up and help him out, he might be able to cut you a great deal and you will benefit as well. I'd been meaning to get to my chiropractor for a routine adjustment and had just been spacing it out. As Mike was starting from scratch, he wanted to delve into it and do a through job of checking out a bunch of other things as well, which was needed and a good thing. This was a good motivator to see someone and Mike gave me some stretches and conditioning things to do as well before I'd left (things specific to my needs). Dude pretty much has the Chiropractor part hard-wired and down pat too. You all can tell from his posts around here that he's damn knowledgeable on a wide variety of medical issues as well. Interesting personal note. I was sitting in the waiting room and thinking of Kevin's comment above. Out of the blue I flashed back 20 years or so and remembered Wayne (Wayne1112) doing Amway. I'd told Wayne that I didn't want to sell the stuff (and get rich), but would help him out as a customer. About once a month, I'd buy something from Wayne, who at that time was determined to make enough money to be able to quit his job and climb full time. He worked it real hard too, it was very admirable that he took a shot at it. I had some real good Amway products that I would have bought anyway which lasted me for years. And years. Point is, if you can help someone out, and you don't have to really go out of your way to do it, then why not? You have an opprotunity to get high quality care here at a dirt cheap price and help someone out. Win-Win BTW, they also have student massage therapists if you need some muscle kinks worked out, stress relieved or have some tendonitis, strains or sprains you want worked on. $30 an hour for a student to rub ya the right way, which BTW is an excellent price if you don't know. Ask the front desk for times they are available if you are interested. ______________________________________________________________ Mods, if you need to move this to spray, it's OK, but unfortunate as it should be in the fitness forum.

God no. What would I do with all that money anyway? He's got one already. Just putting this in the slowest moving, best thread and bring it to the top again.

Ha ha great morning wake up laughing thread. I can't believe I don't have to pay for this stuff. Anywho, Kev, you might check the "Alpine Anomyous" thread and show up sometime to try it, then you can say "well that sucked", or "Awesome". These dudes get an hour of pump in after work no matter how cold, dark or wet it is. It's definatly more manly than I can handle, but I respect em the more for it. Then when they do get on real ice, the cramping happens later:-) link Johns thread. Troys thread Troy started it back up lst month, you can look for his thread too. Edited to change the name Josh to Troy. I'm such a dumbasss sometimes.

Condolences

"Christians for Hillary"? Interesting. Discuss

Layton needs customers to graduate from Chiro. college. (this was posted somewhere else). If you have back/neck or other pains occuring, call the receptionist at the front desk and tell her you'd like to schedule it with Mike Layton. She has his calender. Even if you don't have pain, getting a regular adjustment is a good idea anyway for preventative reasons. To step up and help a brother climber out, call 503-255-6771 scheduling appointments/front desk of chiro college.

Looks like I'll have to buy a program to get up to speed here.

Mikey: Can't help with the girlfriend thing, but if you ever, thats EVER find yourself in a jam needing patients just PM me and I'll be there for ya. I have my own money too:-) You're way on the wrong side of town, but I have a car and can get there. Paradigm shift? And didn't drop acid to get there. It's a bizarre thing dude.

I almost did. It would have done no good. I jumped off at the top and hit the shack up there and they told me to wait in the aid station. I learned, to relief so strong that it almost brings me tears of joy to this day, that although he'd fallen off the lift and landed head first, he'd only had the shit knocked out of him. We all quit for the day and a short ambulance ride to the hospital confirmed it. I was always the only parent watching my kids when they were in the public swimming pool with 300 other kids. The only parent at the swing sets, keeping an eye on 'em. This almost ripped me a new one. Following up on what mthesh said: man, life is already short. It's gotta be tough to be grounded. Wishing you the best dude.

Count me in in wishing you a full recovery. But what the holy hell happened to you? People don't break verts diving in pools...usually. _________________________________________________________ BTW, the very worst moment in my life so far, by a factor of 2 goes like this: It's late spring and I'm up at Timberline with my family. I'm up on the Palmer cranking some laps. In a rare move, I'd gone off to do my thing and let my wife ski with the kids. I usually stuck on those lil pups like glue, but not this day. This day I was itching to fire something. I made about 7 laps, and blow down to the bottom of Pucci to try and catch up, correctly assuming that they whould have about made 1 run by now. As I'm jumping on the lift, the lady next to me says "Oh dear Lord, that poor little girl". I look directly below and there is my rosy cheeked little boy whom I love more than my life itself directly under us as we pass overhead. A lil pup laying motionless on his back in the snow with his eyes closed.... unconcious. The ski patrol are putting on a neck brace and have a backboard next too them. I surmised that he had fallen off the lift and broken his neck and was more than likely paralysed. It was the very worse thing....ever. Ever.

I had the last version of the olympus that Consumer reports rated the highest of all the 3.3mp they tested. Turns out that most of those cameras broke due to a design flaw, ie, the telephoto would extend in and out each time you turned it on or off. Until it wouldn't extend, and then it cost more to fix than to just buy the new model. MFers. Once, I needed to get the friggan driver and couldn't find my disk. Turns out that I needed the disk or the camera wouldn't work, Olympus did not post the drivers online like normal companies. So, I decided not to buy an Olypus and didn't look at them for my next camera. I got the Panasonic with the Leica lense and a 10X zoom. JH gives good advice as well. I won't buy an Olympus because of my experinces, but of course, your results may vary.

Weren't you the one who denigrated guidebooks as limiting the adventure?

Found ice axe link

Nice: love this bit of humor too: Sometime when you're drinking, you should flesh that out. Damn funny!

OMG thats funny!

I miss tub girl. Has anyone told you this week that you are a special woman? Why yes, as a matter of fact. And then they invited me to compete inj their Olympics. Isn't that awesome? You miss tub girl? No Way. Not safe for work tub girl link You can have her anytime by clicking the link or following Dru around until he posts her pic. Tub olympics?

Windows 2015 will be more stable and = Apple 2009

I don't even want to know what your kids look like.

no way that cute lil fella did the cat in...awwwww...must have been that damn schnauser next door.

Some you you screwed up people need to find "the truth". Which I will provide you with. You are all welcome.