Weekend_Climberz

That would take a Jayhawk to make sense

At least post the pic:

That pic is definately some king of spray

Yeah, if you are up there between the 16th and 19th, let me know :tup: :brew:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17026724/ Sounds like natural selection to me. No need to legislate.

Yes sir!! :tup:

:hcluv:

The crux is getting over to that side to get to the base

I will never dry tool... to expensive and I really dont see the point! I would rather rock climb....and if its raining I would rather climb indoors. Uncage your dry tool'n soul.

Great TR!! :cry:

How about these guys in alaska: http://www.alaskanalpineclub.org/IceWall/04-05IceWall1.html

:brew: more locals representing

Some more than others

Religion can be basically boiled down to natural human instinct. Though we are one of the physically weakest predators on the planet, we have managed to thrive because we congregate together. Religion has been a tool of our own instinct to make our species the most dominate of the planet, which is basically what all animals' genes and physiology are geared to do. It's survival of the fittest and right now we're number one.

Man that's a pretty good count. I've got 11 days, but only about 30-35 pitches since November. Got a normal 9-5, too :tup: Here's to all those working and climbing :brew:

They probably all have government jobs

i use leashless ladders. lean them against the cliff and it's all good. climbing a ladder and climbing with tools and crampons are equivalent, right? How many sherpas do you take with you on each trip?

What are you talking about? I started this thread to learn more about it. Sorry if you dont approve of my style of questioning. Cant help you there. There is an ignore list? You ignore fellow posters? I feel sorry for you. Sounds like you have anguish! Try opening up a little bit. You can say what you will. But I have LEARNED FROM THIS THREAD that this sport, dry tooling, for the most part is contrived. And you know what, it doesnt change anything. Happy? Your too easy Kevbone

Wasn't there a route in France that was drilled just to the reach of the FA'r so that he could use his "special move" at full extension to hook the drilled pockets. Called in M13 or something crazy and then the second ascent team used extra long tool shafts to complete the route I think Jens was telling me about that

Thanks for the conditions update. They hoar frost crystals we saw on Sunday in there were some of the biggest I'd ever seen

If you are referring to me.that is very true. I dont know shit about the sport. Thus the thread. Do you always start a conversation with your foot in your mouth? Shit, I don't know why I took you off my ignore list to read this.

Or Spade Climbing, for short. Like this: Dude that shit is sooooo contrived

Dry tooling came about as a necessity in the Canadian Rockies and other colder climbing areas. You can't grip the rock with gloves on because the holds are too small, but you dare not touch the rock with you bare hands at <-20F lest you value your digits. The whole sport tooling came about as a way to practice this in a safer environment just the same as sport climbing was for alpine rock climbing. Of course, the circle of life must be completed with those who are less informed making statements about something they have no knowledge of. I do agree that one shouldn't be thrashing an established rock climbing route, and that it is destructive.

Unclimbed

There should definately be an ice route with a "Larry the tool" theme.