Off_White

Interesting article in today's NYT by Tim Eagan: A Mudslide, Foretold

I dunno about tests Jay, but I think full suspension is still a better design for serious rockfall situations. I tend to avoid those sorts of affairs these days, so I'm pretty happy with my Petzl Meteor, which is light and compact enough to not be a bother. I think it was wearing a helmet snowboarding that was the gateway drug that lead me to always wear a helmet when cragging, but I've had enough friends with close calls ("I'd have been in a coma without my helmet") even in mundane situations that I've become a pretty firm believer in wearing something. I've still got an older Edelrid cradle reserved for dodgier alpine exploits.

That dude just totally gave away the crux sequence for Rude Boys...

I'm working on updating this long neglected thread, first by weeding out the dead links. I've also unlocked the thread so folks can add links they find useful, which I will most likely incorporate into the main list rather than leave in place, but that should help make this list more useful.

I'm not all that fond of that either, the expectation is that this site will outlive most blogs, so the information here won't disappear when you lose interest in blogging. I appreciate that folks like Wayne and Sol, who do keep their own blogs, at least post some pics and narrative, and not just a link. I'd love to see a few TR's from your exploits Mike, you're usually a really fun read.

Partway down the similar thread on Supertopo, Rolo reported: What a damned shame, and a rough time for Jens to boot. I only met Chad a couple of times, but he was all that and a bag of nuts, a solid and friendly human being.

Whoa, blast from teh past!

North Ridge of Forbidden is one of my favorite Cascade moderate outings, its got something of everything I love about the range. Crossing the Boston Glacier is the real deal in terms of glacier travel though. Descending the West Ridge makes it a full circumnavigation. North Ridge of Stuart was my son's first alpine route, it was a pretty fabulous introduction. Glacier travel is minimal, but as noted by others, snow skills are desirable.

and now you have no one left Oops, how did you slip through the round up? Don't worry sir, we'll be with you shortly.

Because internet trolls are horrible people, we've been slowly having them apprehended and sent to Guantanamo, which isn't opening up quite fast enough to meet demand.

I don't know about the game, but there's a nostalgic roster of former cc stalwarts in this old thread...

That's a lot of words, but its a pretty good thesis. I'm more of an Ira Spring guy than a Harvey Manning one, I've downloaded and saved a copy for future reading. Thanks for the link. As far as the author goes, if you know the name and the avatar that goes with it, it would only be polite to keep it to yourself, letting the author own up should they choose.

What, if we don't feed the snaffle the site runs down?

Lucky, you're being a little too obtuse for me, I know you're trying not to name names, but I just don't know my scuttlebutt and slander well enough to fill in the blanks about who had their feelings hurt by whom, and what grudges have endured for 20 years. If someone is working on a new Sno Valley guidebook, but being all secretive about it and only sharing info with their inner clique, they really don't have much grounds to complain if someone else takes on the same project, since to the casual observer the field is wide open. Dueling guidebook authors is kind of a weird situation too, witness that it takes three different guides to fully cover Banks Lake. I guess that's four if you want to throw Washington Ice into the mix. Old guidebooks are funny that way, they tend to become reference materials and form the foundation for new books. Paying royalties? C'mon, you know a few guidebook authors, how rich and famous has their work made them? Back in the seventies I wrote a guidebook that I know has had info recycled, since stuff that I just flat out made up is now the standard nomenclature for a bunch of routes and climbing areas. Do you mean all those people owe me money? Do you know a lawyer who will take on my case on spec?

I think Sobo has a jones for that region, if he ever gets his head out of the sand.

[video:youtube]8bS4fOHzN1U Chamois to be more precise, but cool video in any case.

I just twigged to the fact that there is a shot looking down Howling Ridge back in Darin's pics, and it was clearly the vantage where he took his excellent beta pic of Vesper.

Haven't you guys solved this yet?

Contrary to Glassgowkiss's snide dismissal, the OP asked for "favorite 5.12's" not hard ones, which in any case would only be easier that easy 5.12, right? You know, 12c or d versus 512a or b? No different than asking about favorite 5.8 cracks or whatever grade/type suits your fancy. Certainly no one in this thread has used the concept of "hard" in any manner aside from personal context, so chill out Bob. If looking for the emphasis on "project" there are several (5 I think) 12+ routes at the sandstone quarry in Tenino that are only top ropes and hence neglected, and you'd be welcome to convert them to leads. There's one 12c that's set up for the lead, and its had maybe 5 red points, and a lovely 11d that has not been onsighted yet, despite several strong attempts. It's about an hour and a half from Seattle, so maybe not close enough. Contact me if interested, I'm the property owner. Routes won't really be in shape for any length of time until spring, the sandstone is too porous hence weak when wet.

It needs a basket on the handlebars you poncey lackwit! (just trying to give lie to Fairweather's claim that you're the moderator's lackey)

I don't commute in Seattle, but I'm happy to say, "Thanks Rob!" This is a very good point you've made. It's so cute when the moderators pat one of their loyal puppies on the head. Not true, Rob was a royal bumblefuck on the I-522 subject, like discussing Climate Change with some dimwit who confuses Climate with Weather. How can we have global warming if New Jersey just had a record snowfall on Dec 17th? The man was clearly research impaired, but that doesn't change the fact that he's absolutely right on this thread. Oh, and this is me, Off White, just another poster, not moderator, speaking. What I say does not reflect the opinion of the owners or administrators of this board. Do I need to modify my signature to assuage your fears that some grand conspiracy is out to infringe on your right to free speech?

I don't commute in Seattle, but I'm happy to say, "Thanks Rob!" This is a very good point you've made.

Oh sure Ivan, use a liberal source like Wikipedia! You won't find that kind of smokescreen blabber on reputable sources like Fox or the Drudge Report!

This hits all the rebuttal points that come to mind for me, so I'll just repost it. A dramatic incident and a handful of anecdotes does not equal data.

I had someone wear those things out at the quarry in my yard this year, and she said they're great, at least for one pitch stuff. As an alternative, you can lie down to avoid neck strain...