both can be right - it's all about the monkey that's inside you and what trigger you gotta pull to get those good brain chemicals flowing - a lotta folks get their endorphins from their kids - for me, while i love my kids and spend plenty of time w/ them, i generally still feel near suicidial and deeply angry after a couple days locked up w/ them - what you do: climb, golf, throw a ball w/ your son, whatever doens't matter - dr phil tells me the important thing is being happy :puke: