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nice geoff - y-day was the first time aid-soloing climbs w/ substantial bits of easy free climbing and i thought it went pretty well - the constant cock-blocking of having to stop and awkwardly try to feed rope one-handedly through the gri has not yet failed to piss me off though sheer stress rocks! i like to hear from the free climbers on dracula if my unintended alteration has in fact upped the grade

so is your spray volume set to drop preciptously or increase? what does the bone do w/ his free time?

so watcha do saturday matlock?

i did just that of course but it was too late - the rope was as tight as could be and i couldn't move the jug down at all with all of my wieght, not that it'd matter, since i'd have to unweight the jug to disattach it from the line - basically, i shoulda just removed the jug from the line before i move onto my etriers on the bolt

rampant aeombic dysentry hardly helps

That's not what I'm talking about at all. Judge Alex Kozinski, a Jewish refugee from Eastern Europe, summed up my argument in his dissent in Silveira v. Lockyer: "The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failedwhere the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once." Now as far as the Mexicans hell goes, since the "reasonable" guns laws of 1968 were passed, they are fortunate to have political control by the military and police over their people. The people, however...... i'm well aware of your "we need guns to preserve democracy" line and i just disagree - i think the right to bear arms stems from our right to protect ourselves from criminals and provide food for ourselves through hunting, not to overthrow the governmetn whenever it pleases us (hey, the anniversary of the oklahoma city bombing is today - malzatov! - those guys had the same idea about guns as you ) i have no idea of mexico's gun laws, so i have no idea how "reasonable" they are - do they ban everything? that would not be reasonable. to take your jewish quote above - do you seriously think the jews would have done anything than throw up the slightest of roadblocks against nazi panzers with light arms, the only "reasonable" weapons private citizens should have access to?

that's actually easy -you can have all the tight guns laws you want, but if your large industrial neighbors don't, and you have shitty border control and a law enforcement culture that's entreprenurial in nature, and a giant commercial opportunity that can be only realized w/ planes, helicopters, ww2-era diesel submarines, and machine guns, then the weapons will be present no matter what Since Scott did the thread revival I'll bring it again. Your answer imply s that this open border only exists with the US, and that if our government could somehow strip away our ability to own firearms all would be well with the Mexicans? I'm calling bullshit if that's your supposition. Currently, 90 percent of the illegal grenades in Mexico are smuggled in from Guatemala. You don't figure that the Mexicans can just turn around and get their guns form there or Pakistan? BTW, as long as we're on this rant. There are 2 kidnappings a DAY in Mexico. Every day. Couple of months ago, an estimated 150,000-200,000 Mexican citizens rallied in Mexico City in outrage and anger to protest what they believe to be police involvement and collusion in these daily kidnappings. LINK to August 2008 story Of course, the police have weapons and can and regularly do victimize the population, they are fortunate to have the very gun laws which you want here. Somehow, by magic perhaps, not allowing US citizens weapons will be able to stop the traffic of drugs coming in and money going out? Getting guns out of honest Americans hands will also be able to cease the money and drugs across the border that is the root issue? ..and cutting off US guns will do what to that dynamic again? It's a power play and a lie. You're buying into their bullshit. Don't believe a word of it Ivan turn off the news they're feeding you and use your own thinking. i was not implying that the guns come only from the usa - incidentally, i'm not for cutting off guns here either, at least not beyond sensible restrictions such as not selling children bazookas or allowing giant wild-west arms bazaars - i have no problem w/ hunting or self-protection, and am sure you could do both w/ 19th century era technology my point was that guns will always appear in lethal #'s when an economic vacoum is formed for giant criminal enterprises to take advantage over, especially in a country that already has a # of other problems

"The one thing we could do for a country like Mexico, for example, is to stop every illegal immigrant at the border, give him a good rifle and a case of ammunition, and send him home. Let the Mexicans solve their customary problems in their customary manner." --Ed Abbey i somehow doubt the drug trade or the extreme drug-cartel related violence in mexico would do anything but increase were we to hand out m16s at the border on the other hand, legalizing currently illegal drugs would cut the cartels legs out from under them - what would a giant criminal organization have left to do and thus quarrel and fight w/ other gangs over? human smuggling would still exist, theft and prostitution of course, but what else that could rival the money to be made (and thus fought over) in drugs?

miker was off to repeat my solo of the monkey and spend the night in the west cave, so w/ just sunday to play i returned to broughtons, this time alone, to see what mischeif i could find started by repeating the unknown aid route (aka dracula) and all was well till i decided to alter the difficulty for future free climbing monkeys when my fishhook blew out the little fingerpocket above the last bolt on the ramp traverse - i was just moving to clip the bolt above - the last time i had first placed a green alien of right, then done the hook, but figured to skip the gear this time and just do it right - guess i've gotten fatter in the interim? - anyway, so i ended up falling a long way, spontanouesly hollering "jeeeeeeeeeeebus" as isaac newton stuck his physical cock up my ass - i was 15 feet or so below the bolt that stopped my fall, hanging in space - i jugged back up the line, and then everything went clown though i'd been mindful of not leaving the jug to close to the draw in the bolt, when i transferred my wait unto my etrier on the bolt, the removal of my bodyweight from the line rocketted the jug into the gate of the biner, jamming home such that for the next 15 minutes, no matter what jackass machinations i made, i couldn't free it - james taylor came through my headphones talking 'bout carolina and shit, and then i knew i was gay, the dreams couldn't be avoided any longer so the only solution i could figure was to use bit of the line running down to the ground to fix to the bolt seperatly, lower down to the ground, find a knife (my therapist took mine away from me) and saws through the draw which had the biner my jug was jammed in - tasty! luckily a tokugawa-era samuri fawker was hanging out at the red wall w/ a goddamn loaner-kitana - i most gingerly sawed through the draw which i'd bootied somewhere in the past few weeks and had no sentimental attachment to - worked like a charm, as it bought me enough slack so i could disengage the jug lowered down again to return the blade, then returned and finished the climb, but by now the sun was out like a furnace, so i flagged, not enjoying the hook move at the top required to gain the anchor back on the ground, decided to seek shade - climbed peach cling on the north face wall, reaching the summit via the last little bit of gandalfs - didn't enjoy the smoke at the top so much, given that i had been nursing a quarter liter of water for the past 2 hours, but still, it feels extra cool reachign the top of something all by your lonesome - it made "fire and rain" make me not feel too queer

was a cougar chasing him? that's about the only thing that i can reckon would motivate me to run 50 frak'n klicks!

best matt damon line ever: "let's go to ha'va'd and faaawk up some sma't kids"

solo climbing = most rewarding

hugh conway is a satanist and deserves a just death

holy shit i stayed home and puttered round the yard today w/ the kids n' kevbone went out climbing! but tomorrow....

i didn't think the climbs at vantage were tall enough to fall 45 feet

tempest in a teapot - i thought you desert warriors were a tough breed? - some heinious looking old lady said that, perhaps, a growth in hate groups could be fueled in part by disgruntled soldiers and you get all blubbery like she was saying you're all monsters and baby killers? it might be fun though to waltz down memory lane and id some veterans who did in fact go extremist... lessee, should we start w/ the founder of the most famous hate-group ever? anyone? nathan bedford forest - the kkk - a political organization for what? ah, yes, pissed off former soldiers. did i say most famous? maybe i wasn't giving the nazi party its proper due - the founder - why yes, i think he was a former soldier, and his brown shirts too. lee harvey oswald? timothy mcveigh? terry nichols? ok - not the longest of lists but i'm going home now - i'm sure there's plenty of plumbers and postmen and teachers who've gone psycho leftie/rightie too, but then no one's saying they're all nuts either - the idea of watching folks who have learned and applied the skill of killing human beings in the name of a political goal to see if they've gone round the bend sounds like common sense to me though.

so who r the right wing extremist around here? prolly don't have the nutsac too answer that... i have a secret list of right wing extremists here i can niether confirm nor deny pink's existence on said list

reminds me of the drill sergeants bit in full metal jacket about lee harvey oswald

but everyone knows pirates are evil-doers!

i thought it was more like heat in the tropics - eternal! when they finish that predator-ninja-invisible armor you'll be able to climb 24/7

especially in smiffistan!

is this the thread where i'm supposed to confess all big weepy eyes and trembling lips yes, yes, yes i AM a dumbass climber there i said it i thought i was alone!

as a teenager i worked at water country usa in virginia, renting inner tubes to giant fat asses who, throwing their tubes in the cold water, invariably returned claiming "this'uns sprung a leak" to which i usually replied - "naw, that's robert boyle's fault" - the general response was a look like a dog shown a card-trick, though one fellar did spit a wad of chew at my feet after this cherished bon mot of mine

fuck you yankee bluejeans's "berserker" - the one and only answer [video:youtube]

i can name the father of chemistry, the ancient name for oxygen, and creator of the periodic table of elements, plus use the word "polyglot" in polite company - do you reckon that's good enough?