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that was the worst storm in a decade? what does that even mean? so did you read the book silly? did it include new jersey boy asking for safety tips here and then getting pissy when he got them? the actual posts dissapeared into the memory hole back in 06 of course, but they were classic!

all the cool people have climbed steins....

never trust a junkie?

ah, the search for truth! much like the search for the black ghost of a black dog on a dark night after a few drinks

is it possible to click on a thread w/ this title and not be at least a latent homosexual?

that's actually easy -you can have all the tight guns laws you want, but if your large industrial neighbors don't, and you have shitty border control and a law enforcement culture that's entreprenurial in nature, and a giant commercial opportunity that can be only realized w/ planes, helicopters, ww2-era diesel submarines, and machine guns, then the weapons will be present no matter what they're also more fucked up b/c it's hotter than here - seriously - what nation near the tropics isn't fucked crazy 10 ways to sunday? the swedes n' icelanders are perfect 'cuz they have to spend 10 months indoors eating lute-fisk just to MAINTAIN man! which are our craziest, nuttiest, most annoying fucking states, eh? texas, california, the whole south-east? b/c its 100 billion degrees out all the time and baby's-mama didn't pay the goddamn powerbill and so we gotta chill on the porch - shit, there the incentive to create weapons of pain is ever-present - they make machetes WORK, 'know what i'm saying? so yeah, at any rate, i'll trade you, eh? you can buy bazookas and i can buy my marlboro-blues

i could not readily make myself a home-made bomb of ok city fame - the inconvenience is itself a deterrence - if you could buy 500 lb fragmentation bombs at walmart, per your view, i would imagine we'd see them getting used...

even though 1 bad apple w/ a tank could kill hundreds, if not thousands, but 1 dumb junkie can't do more than ruin his family and mug a couple folks? to my mind, both freedoms need some slight restrictions: - weapons for hunting/defending yourself but that don't let you take out an entire school full of kids in 5.7 seconds - all drugs for all adults, sold w/o advertising in state licensed locations, w/ taxes to pay for health-care, anti-use adverstising, and restrictions on their use when flying, driving, etc. an update - friday's are current event quiz/discussion days in my classes - since this was a big one for the week, i did an informal survey after we'd chatted for awhile - the results - about 75% kids said it was easier to get a joint than a bottle of whiskey!

i forget bill, but remind me - are you fine w/ any and all forms of weapons being sold in the usa, from a black-powder musket to a m1 abrahams tank?

we could solve all these problems if we just started using one of these sweet puppies on everybody at age 30! carousel! renew! renew!

wow dude...you're an asshole... Anyone who skiis, deserves to die(?). x2 at least i feel this way whenever down-slogging on hood i'm surprised more folks don't die skiing each year - i damn near do everytime i go out!

its seem unrealistic that any drugs will be legalized - but i think it should be an "all or nothing" type approach if the problem is to be fixed much

the total ban on any commodity that large numbers of folks desire is dumb/doomed to fail telling a sane/adult man he can't smoke a joint is as big a crime to me as telling the same man he can't buy a gun telling the same guy he can't buy meth is more of a crime to me than telling the same guy he can't buy a machine gun (as in the latter case the abuse of that freedom could hurt a great deal more people) for drugs and guns, i think they shoudl generally be available to citizens, but of course w/ sensible restrictions

Yes, which seems to imply that policy reforms (besides more policing of the border) are needed to address the weapon supply aspect of the problem. my point is that any attempt to deal w/ the drug problem short of some form of legalization is inane - gun policy, border policy, enforcement policy - silly, silly, silly - the total ban creates an immense and absolutely irresistible economic vacuom that all the money and cops and gun-bans in the world won't be able to prevent from being filled, but will, in the attempt, produce endless corpses and corrupt/despotic governments

Aren't we also responsible for the weapons trade that enables these gangs to outgun the police? uh, isn't that pretty much what she said?

for zepellin, i prefer "boogie w/ stu"

dude - tvash is ex-cia-green-beret-navy-seal material, dontcha know? i'd be a fool to take him on! anyhow, i do tr's when i go to the liquor store, so he'd have no chance if'n i was feeling like i had something to defend that said, pat, dude, we gonna climb this weekend? maybe we can split the tr and have 52 1/2 each?

absolute must listen to for you then tvash - cops is funnier than shit, w/ the properly bent-out philosophy of life you so cheerfully maintain - bill hicks, another dead hero! [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNLJIIXj3U

no, if we legalize drugs we'll need him to stimulate the economy!

i knew i didn't like this obama-feller!

if i had a penny for everytime i drove a woman to climbing walls...

the only good marmot...

she might be a stupid bitch, but she has a BILLION dollars and you don't (ha, ha!) for some reason i don't feel so threatened by her - maybe it's b/c i know i could take her?

so what, if anything, can be done to achieve a critical mass and stop this insanity? reagan's drug war is soon to enter its 3rd decade. why isn't there more international pressure? why don't the mexican and columbian governments in particuliar scream out against it?

joe liebermann thinks it'll get better if we just spend more on border guards