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yeah wtf? i sat through a 10 hour slideshow y-day and you only got 2 up for the public consumption - shit, i must be special!

bet you 5$ (us or canadian, yer call) that this one don't have the moxie to make it to 50+ pages like the last one! That's because this time the game is over before the thread started: no survivors. Last time we all (I like to think) kept hoping to see good news and hear the survivor's tale. what if this thread was like that video in the movie "the grudge" though? ya know, if you post in it, you'll die in 48 hours unless you get somebody else to post in it after you? the last sucker in gets the chop!

isn't the morale of the original post that, post-decriminalization, drugs haven't sucked portugal into the pit of hell? it sounds like you assume that mass marketing of drugs would be legal - why? alcohol and tobacco advertising are pretty seriously limited already, and perhaps should be limited further.

could i have a pepsi?

i'd love to help when i get back - but it'll be touch and go - my wife is not exactly pleased i'll be gone 7 days and, much as she loves jim, won't likely see the virtue in helping him out immediately upon my return instead of chilling w/ her - so that rules out next thursday - friday or the weekend i could work

bet you 5$ (us or canadian, yer call) that this one don't have the moxie to make it to 50+ pages like the last one!

now that's funny

You could fit Boner's brain in a nutshell - a pistachio nutshell. not a sesame seed? perhaps the bone is really hamlet though? "I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams."

all this bad noise reminds me of why Laozi was the smartest motherfucker ever

Fuckin LOL holyshit, a picture so fahq'n phunny it summoned out the Commander from the depth of his bora-bora hole!

mike, if you've put them on your facebook for all yer so called "friends" to oogle, you can just insert the address of the photos between and they'll show here

yup, that's their tent and a cool, sheltered place it is - from there it's simplest, if you want to climb the s side, to go up left of crater rock and finish however you like - you can just traverse and extra 15 minutes or so though and link up w/ the dog-track to the right of the crater the cool thing about a camp at illum gap notch is the ease w/ which you can navigate back in a total whiteout from the summit w/ just an altimeter - take note of the altitude at the notch, then on return from the summit, feel your way to hogsback, feel you way skiers left around crater rock, then just keep looking at your watch as you traverse down to camp - if you go to high, you hit the castle crags wall which funnels you down to camp - if too low, you hit i-rock itself and just hike back up - that whole side of the mtn is a giant handrail w/ a tiny crack in it where you camp goes

before writing more, please digest the entirety of this monstrosity please in the meantime and while you're wading through the muck therein contained, contemplate the foolishness of looking for logic in the minds of extremely scared people in a very scary setting, then meditate on what you might make of this macabre moment, even if you could master its intricacies - the only real lesson to take from it is a simple one: don't get yourself killed - it upsets your family and looks poor in the papers!

i'm not sure how you'd fit politics into a nutshell, but i did just notice a fine anagram for "politics son!" is "clit is poison!"

2002 (my first year) - mostly bullshit 2003-present - mostly bullshit i'm left to assume 2001 was a golden year though where are the snowdens of yesteryear?

i doubt he'd be sober enough to think anything sensible of it at all! sky n' company's antics impress me far more than proto-hippie-hedonism

sounds like the "nose in a day" didn't happen? dammit geoff n' mike, couldn't ya'll have totally hosed it so i don't have to ride down there all worried about letting down the side?!?

a cool camp fo'shizzle - in proper storm conditions the little notch where you begin the descent to the reid takes on a life of its own, blowing like a locomotive, hard enough to blast you to your knees - in storms like that, even if you're down in the calm of the bowl, spindrift catchingon i-rock and sloughing down onto you makes waking up to dig yourself out every 2 hours or so mandatory, unless you like being in a collapsing coffin!

the average # of grammitical retardations has dropped, if only b/c erik eventually got bored and stop posting when he'd fallen asleep w/ his eyes open

i'm glad to be cast as the anti-socialite, probably explains why i end up climbing in a team of 1 so often 3 fat ass clueless bumbling bastards will always climb slower than 2 equal retards - twight, blitz & house don't quite qualify as such - i didn't know these guys, but it sounded like they were more like the former and less like the later - a bigger group bumps n bangs up on itself, each person's 1 minute break adds to the collective lag - decisionmaking by consenus building takes longer - confidence in the power of the large team overcomes reallity - might explain why they got a later start on the route? i wasn't there so i don't know and don't represent myself as some sort of expert - from experience, all things equal, my climbs go faster the fewer folks are around, and the longer the smokes and beers survive! at any rate, we argue over details - everyone can agree the most capital mistake was not their party size - were i to arrange my list of problems above, i'd put it at the bottom

yes, several routes - there's info on the board here if you poke around for it - a bit of beta in olson portland rock guide as well - more mixed kinda ground at this moment though i'd reckon

wish i could - if my children were older i was sell them to you as temporary slaves for the evenign, but at the moment they're more liabilities than anything will be thinking of ya'll on that interminable drive though...then falling asleep at the wheel

i prefer climbing w/ 3 b/c then i can usually weasel my way out of having to drive and/or buying the beer

have you climbed the n face gullies fox? not an attack mind you, just wondering if you'd applied your ideas to that route particularily - the ice steps are thin and narrow and 2 seconds are not going to be able to climb simulataneously - of course having a 3 set of hands around is better in case of injury, but that route, which is generally alwasy done in the dark days of late fall/early winter, demands speed. 3 experienced climbers who've done a lot of such climbs togetehr i agree could be as fast as two, but that doesn't describe this bunch as i recollect. hey, aren't there 200 pages of this kinda speculation in the endless tauntaun thread for years back? i agree too this was not their worst mistake - the decision to make a late start in the face of a grim forecast was probably the most telling

climbing w/ 3 is generally slower than w/ 2 - the n face gullies w/ 3 doubly so - speed was what they needed - if it had been just 2 climbers, their odds of survivial in this case would have been greater.