ivan

seems like the classic compromise liberals/dems want complete withdrawal or at best no change conservatives/repubs want total commitment forever slight increase (which still almost doubles the previous force) and for a short time period just about splits the uprights? with the timeline he's announced, he's pretty much staked his presidency on the issue - it's not like he'll be able to weasal out of the deadline or the outcome in 2012, right?

You should take a look at Easterbrook's Mount Baker studies. But yes, I would miss our local glaciers terribly--not that this is relevant at all. As for soot/darkening vs CO2: The solutions are quite a bit different. Are you the least bit concerned that a scientist who feeds his data directly to the IPCC is admitting that there is a problem with the data--and has been trying to hide it? Ivan claimed he wanted a "conversation", but has yet to respond in-kind. At this point, I'll settle for an answer to the question in my last sentence. i'm not certain i asked for that - i always figured taking any "conversation" here seriously tantamount to end-stage insanity, a precept no small # of you dimwits would do well to adopt anyhow, as to your question about my concern on some scientists letting down the side and fudging their data, i thought i'd answered that w/ my snide piltdown observation earlier - it's hardly a new thing for pointy-headed geek fucks to do something like that - i haven't read the articles on this latest example, but i doubt it impugnes every sceintist ever - the whole science thing is based on multiple testings of an idea, no? it seems hardly a days goes by that another organization or science group releases a new study revealing the depth of the problem - i don't think they're all in league w/ each other - that some may have done so, especially in an environment where the slightest degree of uncertainity is translated as proof of the unviability of a theory, doesn't suprise me in the least - of course i wouldn't support it, but i could understand it - the piltdown example is a fine one - sure, those dimwits were lying, but that didn't mean evolution was a bogus theory, right? good?

dude, jodie foster doesn't want to bang you - she digs on chix - give it up!

He was too busy plagiarizing effete Frenchies, dodgin conventions, and bangin his slaves. i miss voting for that man

as you like it

thomas jefferson recommended against reading newspapers

i write a current evetn quiz for my class everyweek - i scan the headlines and generally write a question for any story that appears in 4 of the following news websites: msnbc, abc, cbs, fox, cnn, and google. as a classic libtard, i must listen to npr in the car and for some reason, every gym i've been part of has fox news on in front of the treadmills, so i get my motivation to get done and get the fuck out

Hi Kenny. Took me 2 hours to read all this shit but I just discovered we got a beacon/bacon forum. SCORE! Who is that Pete H dumbfucker who keeps chiming in? His other avatar is Dirty Harry. and he's a plenty cool guy - he just likes to Hate On the Fabled Beacon-Wand

too crass and simple - much of the solution has to come from outside ourselves as individuals - i can't invent a more fuel efficient car, but i can buy one - i can't convert the country to accomodate electric cars, but i can buy one - the solution requires governments, corporations and consumers all to play a part, no?

this totally sounds like a job for the super friends

Ivan. You gonna ask me this again in a couple months? Where's the quid pro quo from cc.com's only libnontard? i might very well ask again out of genuine confusion - so, if i translate your passage proper, you ascribe to the notion that the earth is warming, that mankind might be part of the problem, but that largely its a natural phenomena that shouldn't concern us? you gonna miss the glaciers? so long as there's enough ice to put in my gin n' tonics i reckon i'll be alright, especially since i'll need the tonic to fight off the malaria spreading into the pnw

Actually, I did. You quit after that. i'm a poor sprayer then or maybe it was just drowned in an ocean of bullshit? so what was it?

evolution is bullshit too b/c of those dumbass piltdown folks, right? ya never answered the question in the other thread on this chestnut, fw - which is it? a) the earth is not getting warmer b) the earth is getting warmer, it just isn't the fault of man you obviously don't go w/ c) the earth is warmer, and mankind has been a significant agent in that process your answer is a pretty essential starting point for the conversation, no?

who needs the golden tablets when you got the book o' mormon?

have you actually talked w/ homeboy? what did he say?

march can be fine - temps are the most important - don't wander up if its insane windy or above freezing

sjb's mouth is like a man's, dude - think about it - seriously.

is it boxing day yet?

does it have no tape?

they're all pink on the inside :puke:

pearl jam on cotton sheets?

having sex w/ a canadian is a lot like having sex w/ your brother

sweet! i look forward to stealing this book

wherever you found it, you know it's mine, in fact, hello, watchu do'in w/ my camelot beyotch!?!

there is little room for compromise in conversations about invisible guys in bathrobes hanging out in the clouds