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dude u can't be a Man unless yer always On Point - Manning the Perimeter - Setting the Boundaries - Defending the North Forty [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqtgfjkB6Pg

i'm not sure, but i think we do still masterbate manually

so long as i'm playing the part of The Wise Man then, bill, can i also recommend what you Should take? mp3 player for the walk up the slope and a fatty vacoum/thermos bottle of hot tea during the max of 3 stops to the summit? slow n' steady on the walk up - the zone between sweating and freezing - stop once an hour at most - -staring it!?!

don't head too far off the track - arguing the why's'n'wherefores of a historical process is neessarily more messy than climatology - french arrogance isn't the issue, though i know no conservative can go stand to go too long w/o bashing on our former allies the point was, we, the us (who i hate no more than i hate on any other nationality - and by the way, what is it w/ you conservatives and your desire to assert that you love sweet jesus/usa more than The Others? our country isn't our prom date! ) are just like everybody else- all humans are short-sighted and petty (you would never stick a fork in machiavelli's eye, forsoothe!) - our refusal in 1918, as a signficant part of the relevant world, to join an international organization that could, as a solid front, stand up to tyranny is a historical embarassement, and an excellent analogy to today - if we had been an active part of the LON in the 20s, we would have been active from the start in preventing the ungratitious shit-kicking of the weimar republic, in drawing the line at the rhineland, in the opposition to fascism in italy and germany. sure, we were involved in an independent fashion at that time, but the message was clear: we dont' really give a shit what happens over there so long as it doesn't disturb us over here. the thing is, in ww2 we could wait until the world hung in the balance to act, and still see a happy ending - this next epic is a very different bird, and our tardiness may very well prove fatal - and what really is the great sacrifice you're being called to? buying energy efficietn light bulbs and driving a faggy prius? business can do just fine, and waiting to get whole-hog into it might just as well put us far back in terms of new technolgy and industries. what exactly are you afeared of again? i was hardly a good econ student, but the basic lesson wasn't that hard - price reflects cost - cost in an enligthened world should include the carbon cost of doing business - why does this basic concept equal the jack-boot of uncle sam equal kicking the virgin mary in the shitter? the price of a gallon of gas or a car or an hour of electricty should include the cost of getting the co2 back out of the atmosphere - holy shit call national enquirer!

at least you're a CONSISTENT wing-nut conservative so, hypothetically, a vigorous, shit -any-, US participation in a league of nations would have had no effect, zero, in preventing/minimizing ww2? "hey hitler - remember who kicked the fucking shit out of you bitches last time you got mouthy? touch the rhineland and we'll kick the shit out of you like we do wetbacks n' chinamen, ya dig?" hitler did what he did calculating on a complete american disinterest in anything more immediate than getting their fuck on - a whole lot has changed in 70 years, no? half the reason our modern conservative generation bangs its cock against the bar-top and worships "the greatest generation" is b/c it has no interest in putting forth that kind of effort itself, or of learning its fore-father's fuckup. so long as your powers of denial operate in all places and in all times

my question is: how many of these guys voted for him? he was plenty clear about his thoughts on afghanistan when he was candidate-obama. i'm glad i set my expectations low from the get-go

Unless, say, it's swollen shut. is that a threat, tough-guy?

do you see any irony there? the us rejection of the versailles treaty was a major part of the super-shit-storm that was ww2 - it turned out that a solution to a global problem wasn't possible w/ one of the biggest players in the world sticking it's isolationist, dipshit-conservative head up its proverbial ass. not even a little bit of irony?

It didn't happen if there's no pictures......:-) just like i tell my wife it's not cheating if i don't open my eyes

thanks - she's put back on all the weight now too and is her usual self - still has tube scars in her chest (and the balloons in her bedroom which she refuses to give up, despite being 1/10 inflated) but is otherwise good. i never had the vaccine and didn't get sick, but then i'm a god damn sexual tyranasaurus, no?

never steeper than 45 degrees unless you've choosen to do something needlessly hard

ya'll were carrying waaaay too much shit, esse - leave the pins, most of the water, the extra tool, and at least half the picketts and if you get down to the reid and don't want to do the headwall for whatever reason, just scoot up luetholds

Who asked who this question? suprise, i was the clue-less one - i didn't even much care when uva recieved its annual pummelling by virginia tech

my favorite was a senior i taught last year: "global warming isn't happening b/c god wouldn't let something bad like that happen"

i took my kids for a walk around last night before bed-time - a dude ran into us out on the sidewalk, smoking a butt - in total disbelief: "dude, why aren't you watchign the game?!?" "uhh....what game?"

aww, and i always thought of meself in the hemmingway-style - terse n' taciturn - i kept my valley prose poignant n' clipped, methinks, n' my denail t.r. was a fart in a stiff-breeze! anyway, this thread isn't about me - its about bolting - and convincing a legend to stick aroudn for more than 5 minutes - priorities people!

wait, i thought that was mexicans? shitty tequila does taste like shitty vodka though...

uh, marc, the "you guys" you refer to includes maybe 3 people on this board, hardly an angry mob

yeah, i don't think cockroaches and mayan gods will much feel like prying all them shiny bolts out

scientists killed santa claus too, rotten bastards!

if this turns into another bolting debate i propose that all participants simulataneously play russian roulette at home - you get 1 round for 6 chambers, and therefore a 6 post maximum - pope goes first!

it the alternative's between sending in a dickload of grunts to get the suspected badguy n' sending a droid, how is that much of a choice? of course killing civilians is wicked fucked up, but for christ's sake our nation grew to international stature by saturation bombing european and asian populations to the brink of annihilation - this sounds like an improvement to me i'm w/ you tvash though, in that i don't want this war and want it over asap - should we really not zap guys we know our out to get us though, even if doing so kills their kids n' grandmas n' neighbors?

yup, sure sounds like jon's on your side

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