ivan

my question is: how many of these guys voted for him? he was plenty clear about his thoughts on afghanistan when he was candidate-obama. i'm glad i set my expectations low from the get-go

Unless, say, it's swollen shut. is that a threat, tough-guy?

do you see any irony there? the us rejection of the versailles treaty was a major part of the super-shit-storm that was ww2 - it turned out that a solution to a global problem wasn't possible w/ one of the biggest players in the world sticking it's isolationist, dipshit-conservative head up its proverbial ass. not even a little bit of irony?

It didn't happen if there's no pictures......:-) just like i tell my wife it's not cheating if i don't open my eyes

thanks - she's put back on all the weight now too and is her usual self - still has tube scars in her chest (and the balloons in her bedroom which she refuses to give up, despite being 1/10 inflated) but is otherwise good. i never had the vaccine and didn't get sick, but then i'm a god damn sexual tyranasaurus, no?

never steeper than 45 degrees unless you've choosen to do something needlessly hard

ya'll were carrying waaaay too much shit, esse - leave the pins, most of the water, the extra tool, and at least half the picketts and if you get down to the reid and don't want to do the headwall for whatever reason, just scoot up luetholds

Who asked who this question? suprise, i was the clue-less one - i didn't even much care when uva recieved its annual pummelling by virginia tech

my favorite was a senior i taught last year: "global warming isn't happening b/c god wouldn't let something bad like that happen"

i took my kids for a walk around last night before bed-time - a dude ran into us out on the sidewalk, smoking a butt - in total disbelief: "dude, why aren't you watchign the game?!?" "uhh....what game?"

aww, and i always thought of meself in the hemmingway-style - terse n' taciturn - i kept my valley prose poignant n' clipped, methinks, n' my denail t.r. was a fart in a stiff-breeze! anyway, this thread isn't about me - its about bolting - and convincing a legend to stick aroudn for more than 5 minutes - priorities people!

wait, i thought that was mexicans? shitty tequila does taste like shitty vodka though...

uh, marc, the "you guys" you refer to includes maybe 3 people on this board, hardly an angry mob

yeah, i don't think cockroaches and mayan gods will much feel like prying all them shiny bolts out

scientists killed santa claus too, rotten bastards!

if this turns into another bolting debate i propose that all participants simulataneously play russian roulette at home - you get 1 round for 6 chambers, and therefore a 6 post maximum - pope goes first!

it the alternative's between sending in a dickload of grunts to get the suspected badguy n' sending a droid, how is that much of a choice? of course killing civilians is wicked fucked up, but for christ's sake our nation grew to international stature by saturation bombing european and asian populations to the brink of annihilation - this sounds like an improvement to me i'm w/ you tvash though, in that i don't want this war and want it over asap - should we really not zap guys we know our out to get us though, even if doing so kills their kids n' grandmas n' neighbors?

yup, sure sounds like jon's on your side

fuck you i won't do what you tell me fuck you i won't do what you tell me fuck you i won't do what you tell me fuck you i won't do what you tell me fuck you i won't do what you tell me fuck you i won't do what you tell me

i'm sorry, since the SAT no longer does analogies i refuse to participate in their further use

good article - glad i read it - he used it negatively, but i agree that the obama-lama's course is "pragmatic" - it might be morally bereft, as he says, but it will ultimately at least get us the hell out of there - i would have been happier w/ a complete exit, but i doubt his west point audience would have been so polite about it also, politics being what they are, obama can't appear to be a total pussy, and that's what you get called when you back down w/o any fight. i hope this works - if it doens't, i hope as few people die as possible, and that in fact no more afghan chickens come home to roost.

if iraq goes up in flames in 2011 it will probably be an indicator of how leaving afghan the next year will go that said, iraq appears to maybe not be the total shithole it was just a couple years ago, so maybe the lesson is ya never know? i'm hopeful for this plan, it could work, and i like that regardless we'll be getting the hell out of there in time to hold The Man in charge for it come re-election time. and i agree w/ you bill - it's not the same afghanistan as in the 80s

The bigger issue here is you let your kids watch TV..... before ya know it he'll be letting them have sex.... uh..guys...hello? i wus talking 'bout the west point kids caught napping in primetime. it was bedtime already for my brood

the kids falling asleep during it though on live tv was fuckign classic though - i felt bad for them too - though he's a fine orator, i was wicked tired last night and in full on zombie mood while listening