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It should have been McCain vs. Dean, but Karl Rove is a Nazi bitch and the Dems are a bunch of spineless ass kissers.

Hey Lucky, Are you in Seattle? If so, and you don't mind driving (my car is kaput), I'd be happy to head out there or Index on Wed or Thur.

I feel so safe and cozy.

Where is "Already_On_Top"?

I second the on Precip. I've got the pants and they are NOT breathable and don't have full sidezips which pretty much means you either wear them all day or not at all. I only use them for hiking in pouring rain or through wet brush. The good thing about them is that they only weigh 7oz. I like thin Schoeller pants for climbing. I haven't often felt the need for more waterproofness on my legs than the DWR coating provides and you can't beat the breathability and functionality. If I were going to get a WPB shell jacket today, I think my first choice would be the Integral Designs eVENT Jacket . Maybe they make pants too? I dunno. BTW: NOLSE courses - 0, Retail Experience - 0.

You mean being 25+yo? Or having the money? Or what? How long did you want to be down there?

Happy Birthday to Michael and Bob Marley!

that's the bolted offwidth thread damnit! Ooops. My clipboard has failed me once again. Fixed it.

Wide mouth nalgenes are very useful. Much easier to fill when pouring from a pot (think melting snow). You can use them for huckleberry collecting. They are easier to add drink mixes to. Less convenient for drinking from, but lots of advantages over narrow-mouthed bottles. (edit: scooped by Blake). I want a hand strengthener thing. I like the BD ring.

Maybe you should weigh in on some gear review threads. Might I suggest the FLEECE thread? edit: fixed the link

yup

Good story Mike. I'm glad to hear your recovery is going well.

Sheik Mahmood Al Abbas makes sexy pucker lips for the camera. Yup. "Seen here, Zakmed Zakir Al Kawai, bloodthirsty madman of Basra, has a light moment while pulling back his ponytail."

Yes. Yes it does. I once saw him carried across campus in a pole-chair carried by a bunch of students while he wore a crown and robe and flogged them with a whip.

Are those cams on the market yet? What are they called? What does the thumb rest look like? Is it a loop like the other Trangos & new BDs?

COR is at about 6500' above sea level, so it's pretty chilly right now (highs mid-30s, lows in the teens). I dunno when you were planning on going, but I don't think it's a good choice for winter. The cracks at Indian Creek are incredible (I've only sampled a small bit) but there isn't a whole lot there <5.10, so keep that in mind. The towers look cool, but I wouldn't go to Moab for cragging if you ain't up to 5.10 cracks. Johsua Tree and Red Rocks are fantastic winter climbing destinations. You can't go wrong with one of those. Have fun and post a TR when you get back!

Please don't!!! Think of the earthquake and subsequent Tsunami that would result! Please! Think of the children!

Pfffffttt!!! I already took that class. Here is a pic from my first day: Snuggie, you should combine your trapeze and viola lesson!: "Traskpeze"?

On the bright side, six months from now there will be advertisements in all the climbing mags: EVEREST PERMIT FEES NOW $4.95/PERSON! We promise not to have any revolutions this season. Honest!

To sum up - DrC says: Cap'n NOLSe replies: But wait! Then Dru says: and Cap'n NOLSe replies:

I dunno there Mr. Official NOLS guy, I thought I might have felt a hint of a breeze once or twice while I've been out climbing in the cascades, and I could be crazy, but putting on my windshirt seemed to prevent that wind from cutting through my baselayer and making me chilly, but then again, I ain't an official NOLS guy with "experience in the outdoor retail industry", so I could be wrong. Those wiley, wacky retailers - it's just like them to make a product for rain and call it a "wind" shirt. SHeesh. They sure are dumb. ps - what does the "e" stand for at the end of your name? "Evicted" perhaps? pps - Crash, sorry, but it doesn't seem like you are getting very good advice on cc.com on this issue. Perhaps you should go talk to someone who knows what the fuck they are talking about. I recommend Jim Nelson. I recently read about the Montbell Ultralight Windshirt (2.6oz I think) with a supposedly 100 wash-proof DWR coating and a full zip. Might wanna check that one out. I've got the MEC Genie windshirt that Dru talks about below and it does the trick and was cheap. Cheers.

Your post above reminds me of your post below: