b-rock

It's my responsibility to make sure I don't get taken hostage? Hmmmm.

He he. I was guilty of popping in a Teton Gravity Research tape yesterday...

Cleophus got 'rescued' by a helocopter on Glacier Peak last weekend. That's what the summitpost thread says....

For another option, Citybikes does consignments too.

Yeah, silly Europeans...

How to Roll by the Lego Men

quote: Originally posted by iain: B-rock TFJ remains one of my favorite climbs even after the # of times I've been up there. Hope it wasn't too crowded for you. Usually there's at least one Mazama type group up there that gives me crap for being by myself on that route while they engage in a shouting fest around the crawl trying to talk to each other. I just run through and get out of there. Yeah, it was a blast and my first time out with such crazy exposure. I checked the Mazamas outing page, they had a trip down that way planned for the previous and next weekends so I thought we were safe. Alas, a group of 9 from a Eugene club were there... Still, the timing worked out well with their early start, we passed most on the way down after we did the crawl and only waited about ten minutes for the summit pinacle to clear up, which we had to ourselves.

Three Fingered Jack for my first ass-puckering alpine lead. Exposure scares the crap outa me but keeps it real!

So true! Go Roberto!

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Must be the Doctor's old age and resulting world-weariness. Hmmm, must be then.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Attention, uppity fuckers Damn man, you're gettin' cranky lately.

Sorry there tiger, don't cry. I was curious, looked it up, thought I'd share.

The phrase "In like Flynn" originated as a coarse reference to Errol Flynn's powers as a seducer. In November, 1942, Flynn was charged with statutory rape, arrested and brought to trial, then acquitted. He was charged with having sexual intercourse with two girls under the age of 18. (He was 33 at the time). It was Flynn's belief that the Los Angeles district attorney had made him a scapegoat for Hollywood in order to discipline the film community. Jerry Giesler (Flynn's ace lawyer) considered Flynn an excellent witness and thought that his "gentlemanly demeanor throughout the trial had been an important factor". A new phrase was added to the English language: "In like Flynn".

Iain - Who does ski swaps in Eugene and Corvalis? Guessing something university related... Thx.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Better yet, learn to snowboard, and avoid the perilous dork-trap that is two sticks. Hmmm, let's not go there...

we climbed cruisin' and the second pitch of the SE corner. a few routes above the first cave. then some weak-assed beer fueled attempts at bouldering. the line to get back up on the ledge was many people deep, we didn't go there. hope y'all had fun, it was a nice day.

agreed. my M2 picks up interference from my GPS and cell phone (when in receive mode) but it isn't a problem when you turn them off or get more than a few meters away from them. it is something to keep in mind though if you are a newbie following a weak signal in circles...

In Sunday's Oregonian http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonandthewest/oregonian/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news/1032004571142862.xml Forest fee setup splits employees of agency 09/15/02 STEVE LUNDGREN BEND -- U.S. Forest Service employees are divided on whether they support a fee system that affects 1,197 trailheads and recreation sites in Oregon and Washington, according to an internal survey released Friday. Forty percent of those responding approved of the program, 38 percent opposed it, and the remainder said they were either neutral or didn't know. More than 60 percent, however, worry that the system of charging $5 a day or $30 a year to use certain areas of national forests is unfair to low-income people. The results were based upon responses from 2,240 of the approximately 7,000 Forest Service employees in the agency's Region 6, which covers Oregon and Washington. Researchers at the University of Florida and Pennsylvania State University compiled the results. The agency sponsored the survey to find out where employees stood on the controversial program and what information they needed about it, said Jocelyn Biro, regional fee program coordinator. Often called the "fee demo program," it began six years ago as an experiment to learn if the public would support user fees to augment dwindling allocations for recreation. After receiving a congressional extension in 2000, the program provides about 20 percent of the region's recreation budget. Scott Silver of the Bend-based group Wild Wilderness sees the division in employee opinion as an indication of wider discontent. "I view this survey of extremely supportive of our claims that the fee demo program is not popular," Silver said. "This is an agency where many people could easily see their jobs are dependent upon this. There's a lot of self interest. . . . At best, internally, they can't muster more than 50-50." Silver has been fighting the fees since their inception, seeing them as the first step toward commercializing public lands. Regardless of whether they support the fee system, most Forest Service employees don't want that to happen, according to the survey. Seventy percent disagreed with a statement asking if corporations should be allowed to sponsor recreation sites or facilities on national forests with few or no restrictions. Nearly half, however, disagreed that charging fees would lead to over-commercialization, compared with 27 percent who said it would and 25 percent who were neutral or had no opinion. A third of employees said fees enabled the agency to improve recreation services while 21 percent said they hadn't. More (41.5 percent) thought the fees have resulted in better recreation facilities compared with 16.6 percent who disagree. More than 40 percent of employees did not know whether recreation services and facilities had improved. This was an important finding for Biro, who is trying to market the program internally as well as to the public. "There were a lot of employees who didn't even know how the money was being spent on their forests," she said. About half of respondents said more information about how the money was being spent would make them feel more supportive of the program. About 22 percent wanted a better understanding of how the public felt about the program; 21 percent wanted a better understanding of Congress' intent in authorizing the program. Twenty percent said nothing could make them support the program. That figure nearly corresponds with the number of employees who said they do not enforce the forest pass law because they don't support it.

The book says its 5.9+. Plus what is the question...

Chronic Gumby !

Sketch. It's gunna rain on Sunday. Get your climb on Saturday !

Erik, check yo PMs.

Agreed, I'd be in. Sounds like there could be a lot of takers, fast....

A gaggle of cc.com-ers descended on Smith this weekend. Sketchfest, Shredmaximus, Timm@y, jkreuger, FunGuy and Cletus were in attendance. Rock was climbed. Beer and HC was consumed. Some of us flailed and returned home beaten up and bloody. Special thanks to Tim and Becky for their hospitality and HC feast. No puppy porn, but plenty of foreplay.