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I think that's right. It definetly isn't open as far as silverstar. I was there over Thanksgiving and it was open to about Silverstar but they were moving it back about seven miles in the next couple days. The only way to get into the goods up 20 is via snowmobile.

Just trying to decide where to go look this weekend. Forecast looks good, perhaps something might be in by then. Anyone have any beta re: ice around Mazama?

I've been out of town for the last few weeks and haven't been paying attention to weather out here. Has anyone heard about conditions of ice in E Washington like Banks, etc. Had a good time climbing ice at Mission Falls outside Missoula Montana this last week, even though it got really warm I'd paste some pics here if I knew how.

"End of the Affair", a wicked-hard gritstone deathfest.

For real

yeah RORP big wall climbing is SOOOO very exciting to watch.

RURP the cool thing about "famous" climbers is that they are normal approachable people and average climbers like us can hang out and drink beer with them. I personally think its cool to meet someone who can free a 5.14 trad route on El Cap for example. If they're a chode I wouldn't want to hang out with them no matter how hard they climb, but most rad climbers are pretty cool. Thanks for being so morally superior to all us "climbing groupies" bro

Talk about taking whippers onto daisy's. I pulled a shallow cam hook and took a fall onto a wierdly placed yellow alien. I didn't even feel it pull on the way down but it took a huge chunk out of one of the cams. Another time I took a daisy fall onto a micro RP and it held - go figure!

Are you gunna go build a kicker, bra?

I have Axar. I like. Alex Lowe only climbed with charlet moser so they're good enough for me.

Mt. Erie by Annacortes has a good amount of routes I guess and is kind of like on the Peninsula.

we almost killed Sig Isaac, some Squamish badass dude, this October in the valley when my partner knocked off a dinnerplate rock onto his head. We also: hung out with Alex Huber at a belay, ate some of Leo Holding's "crisps", and ran into Bridwell at the base of El Cap.

My naked lady lighter from the dollar store on University Ave.

Tricams rock for putting in right off the belay when you don't want to waste a cam and have a good enough stance to mess around with it for a while. Also good for belay anchors.

A bunch of tube chocks and clog nuts my old man gave me, along with his whillans harness. Worthless, except for a laugh every now and then.

Well my shittiest pice of gear's probably my poop tube.

the only gear you should take for that couliour there is a pair of skis with sharp edges. Or if your rad a snowboard so you can carry a set of ice tools.

Caroline: Raichle Thermoflex custom liners. Used mostly for ski boots but work excellent in plastic ice boots. Hey, I'm going to be in Minneapolis visiting relatives over Christmas. I know its been unseasonably warm there this year. Has any ice formed around town? Is it worth bringing my ice gear?

Town Crier, upper Index town wall, if you want an fun, easy multipitch route with a lot of easy hammerless aid.

Since I'm relatively new to ice climbing, and the area (sort of) how bout some beta for planning winter ice climbing road trips: where is the closest "destination" ice area? Is Lillouet any good? any areas in interior BC that consistently have fat ice?

I can't go climbing with you, but I can kick down some beta on Colchuck Balanced Rock.

My old man, my first climbing mentor, was a` ranger and did a tour in 'Nam. He's still the biggest bad-ass I know.

YEAH good beta. I'll be "camping" in my van so one less thing to worry about. As far as buying food outside the valley, can you store lots of it? I've heard to bring a padlock for bear boxes, but wouldn't space be limited if everyone's using them? Yossarian, I'll be there in September looking for partners.

Henry barber even clmbed shoeless on his visit to Dresden, in order to fully appreciate the local standards and practices.

Ok all you Yosemite veterans, in anticipation of my maiden voyage to the valley this fall I think it would be useful to collect suggestions, beta for getting by in the valley dirtbag style. I've heard of various scams like poaching used food from tourists, sneeking into the cafeteria, etc. Any other wiley ideas for how to live like a king and party like a rockstar on a "leisure class" budget?