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I like Bridwell's altitude training concept: chain smoking gets his lungs and body used to not having much O2, so in effect he's always altitude training.

I just tell myself the beer will taste better after I train hard. Of course if I'm drinking beer while I'm training it tastes pretty good too Dru, how do you define something like bouldering or trail running that's fun in itself but is also training for climbing. Cragging is doing something, but to me its also training for long alpine climbs. [This message has been edited by specialed (edited 07-11-2001).]

Johnny, my good friend in Missoula has your job. He plays with fish DNA and flyfishes for a living a couple hours a week. The rest of the time he skis. Bastard. I currently work for the man at a software company, but plan to enter the legal profession so I can be like that lawyer in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Fuckin Mapquest and shit.

I might even manage to wander down south to the homeland to join ya'll for a beer or two. The Parkway will be fine, but just to let you know the Unicorn Tavern down by Titlow serves PBR tall dogs !

Bouldering around Tacoma - ha!

Thanks Cap'n. I'm headed out to meet some folks for beer and food after work but thanks. Its cool there's many other days and lots of rocks. I love goin to Index anyway, can't complain about that

Lucky fucker. I wanted to do Colchuck Balanced Rock this weekend but couldn't find a partner... again . So I go Index instead.

I don't know dude, the Backstreet Boys are coming to the Tacoma Dome.

Dude I must agree. I actually grew up in T-town. At the time I thought it sucked but after living in Seattle for a while, I'd way rather live in Tacoma. All my buddy's who live there have these phat apartments and houses, I pay the same rent they do and have this little piece of shit studio. Seattle sucks cock, T-town rules [though Seattle's closer to Index ]

That's funny though. I can just imagine some fat ass climber slobbering through a bucket o'deep fried chicken parts and tossin em off the rock. Thats not a bad idea, greasing up the thank-god buckets on climbs with chicken grease and hiding in the bushes for a laugh.

You just got to watch out for all those darn nazis in Tacoma, oh wait I didn't mean to use a racial slur

I won't hit someone from Tacoma, they've got enough problems already.

Wreck beach in Vancouver - nudity, drugs, alcohol, water. Good clean fun.

a racial slur? Don't think so bro. Why don't you look up the definition of that term (i.e. pertainting to one's ethnic background). That would be impossible since I don't make those sort of comments, and I don't know and don't care what race you are.

Thanks for the your anal retentive correction Erik. They also allow dogs into restaurants and bars in Europe. They worship cows in India whats your fucking point?

What! the man who chases the great Yeti is boring? Give him a break, he's German, he lost his sense of humor in the war, or lack of O2 or something. It is a good quote though.

Except that unnecessary bolting is "the murder of the impossible"

You too can be the inspiration for his next hit song!

OS - There are sport climbs at Index, but its mostly a traditional area. There's beautiful granite cracks and stiff ratings. If that's not your thing, you might want to check out Exit 38 and some other areas around Mt. Si for bolted sport climbing. Smoot's Falcon Press Washington Rock Guide is a good intro to various climbing areas in western Washington and the rest of the state.

Tons of sport climbing Officespace, you should go out there and get on one called Slow Children, its only 10d.

Maybe the Brits have it right with their E ratings. That makes a lot of sense to have a pure difficulty rating, regardless of danger, then a seperate commitment or danger rating. I also think that a lot of people involved in drilling these days act autonomously, away from the main established climbing community. These "ascenscionists" have learned their skills in a gym and are mostly ispired by the ethics that are popular indoors and on modern, steep, sport crags. They are ignorant about the values and rich history climbing has. Its one thing to drill a new route or retrobolt if your actions are premeditated, discussed, and accepted. But "renegade" drilling, espescially on protectable rock, is unacceptable and shouldn't be tolerated. There isn't a lot of mutual ground on this issue and this sort of thing shouldn't be validated by being passive or worried about aggression begating agression. It needs to be nipped in the bud.

More details Greg. What happened?

I just though it was a remnant from the old days of the quarry. Where they used to store equipment and shit. But all the other ideas are a hell of a lot more interesting.