specialed

Which is what yuu can expect of any small town with a highway running through it.

Its the original laser surgery technology that causes prob's at altitude, not lasek. I've climbed with someone at 19,500 who had lasek and had no problems. From everything I've heard and read, its totally safe. [This message has been edited by specialed (edited 07-20-2001).]

Good work boys! Its irrelevent whether or not the choppers can lead DDD w/o bolts. Its the mystery, potential of failure, and awe that draw us to climbing. Just knowing that there are stout, intimidating routes out there is what motivates me to climb hard and train (boulder). For those of us who aspire to climb routes like DDD, it makes us stronger people and climbers when routes like DDD are left in their original condition. And Lambone, safety is relative.

Dru, I didn't want to have to tell you this, but: I'm your father.

"Don't touch me." -Dean Potter, to a bewildered party doing the Nose in classic multi-day style as he literally runs past them on speed-solo ascent.

Don't touch me

http://www.climbing.com/Pages/newnews00.html#vandal

Has anyone done the Snaz? Isn't there a devious runot OW section involved?

I'm looking into the Lasek thing. SO nice not to have to deal with contacts, glasses, prescription sunglasses, etc. Probably save money in the long run.

Rock quality is all relative. when I was climbing in Montana, I was used to the dirty and loose rock with flairing crack systems in Blodgett Canyon. I thought the few high-quality cracks there made up for everything else. After climbing a lot out here and B.C.: Index, Squamish, Washington Pass, the Bugs, I went back there and all I could think about was how shitty the Bitterroot is, when it used to not bug me that much. If people learn to climb on solid rock at the crag or a choice alpine destination, or are just used to it, when they encounter mildly shitty rock they freak out and label it as horrid, etc. It all depends on what you're looking for and what you're used to I guess.

Good for Lance and all but climbings such a way kewler sport than anal-retentive road biker racing

from a gym climber no doubt

Will: what variety of ultra-light parafenalia did you bring along? Titanium pipe, plastic bong? Rolling doobies would be the lightest way to go, eh?

Seems like he shamlously plugs WC friends as the only safe SLCD to use, dismissing others as patent work-arounds and cheap immitations. Yeah Right, he just wants to get paid. Still an amazing guy though.

This site is to kill time at work and occasionally get some useful beta on fun routes to do and places to ski.

D-wayne: I'm not dissing on your near-death experience in the cave. I wouldn't touch one oif those things with a 100 foot cheater stick. I get claustrophobic in squeeze chimneys and I'm definetly skeered of holes in the ground. But reading your story totally reminded me of that infamous BB episode, so sorry. I think your stories are funny and insightful. I also think you and lambone's rivalry is funny too. No pedantics intended I apologize.

Sorry Ed! [This message has been edited by specialed (edited 07-17-2001).] [This message has been edited by jon (edited 07-17-2001).]

Dwayner, your story sounds eerily like the Brady Bunch episode when they visited Hawaii, got lost in a cave, and discovered a voodoo tiki doll, while unmasking heinous criminal activity at the same time. And was that amateur historian you met named Higgins by any chance? - BTW, you and Lambone make me laugh my ass off too. [This message has been edited by specialed (edited 07-17-2001).]

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El Capitan: my post was just a response to your post the other day about me being "limp wristed", etc. I didn't take it seriously or personally as I am secure in my masculinity. I just don't get it that when I give you a little good natured chiding in return, you fly off the handle and go balistic and violently threaten me. That's where I'm coming from. Gimme a break anyway, what are you gunna do reach through my computer screen and choke me?

Old Caveman can dish it out but can't take it. Obviously he's overly-sensitive to any threats to his "manhood". Maybe there's something he's hiding? He obviously tries so hard to live up to the testosterone-fueled redneck GI stereotype, that its not a challenge to push his buttons. He flies off the handle quicker than one of his redneck buddies who misplaced his Bassmaster 2000. Lambone, we don't need to tag-team against poor Caveman, he makes a fool out of himself without us having to put any effort into it. As far as Dwayner goes, I'm content sitting back and listening to his incoherent ramblings about hemp rope and 2 x 4s for pro, and mickey's wide mouth - I think its quite amusing actually.

I hear Capt. Caveman's boyfriend gets really pissed at him when he takes off for long climbing trips. Poor Caveman

This John Long story on the subject is one of the best humorous climbing pieces I've read: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/Climbing/Net-stories/0003.txt.html

How is that there tooth & claw route? -

Farmer caught in hay baler cuts off arm to save himself ROBBINSDALE, Minn. — A 34-year-old farmer sawed off his arm below the elbow as he was being pulled into a hay baler, saying "it was either my whole body or my arm." Jarrod Wagner was removing a clump of hay from twin rollers in the machine Tuesday when his left arm was caught and he felt himself being dragged in. He used a metal piece from his headset to perform the crude surgery. The amputated arm was too mangled to be reattached, said a spokeswoman for North Memorial Medical Center in Robbinsdale, near Minneapolis