specialed

I'm just saying that form of super technical descending does not appeal too much to me. It seems too contrived. Skiing is usually contrived but its fun because you're going fast and feel like you're flying espescially in the pooder. Climbing is contrived but usually you are atleast attempting to use the most practical way to get up your chosen route for you, whether aid, free or what. For most of those ski descents talked about in this thread you'd be better off walking down in crampons. Therefore methodical ski descents using ice axes and ropes are contrived and impractical too. Though I know those dudes, esp Troy Jungen (who my buddies have skiied with) are fucking bad ass and sick sick sick.

Litoris?

Most of those "ski descents" are stoopid as far as I'm concerned. Its more like down climbing with a snowboard/skis attached to your feet . If you can't actually "ski" without stopping a bunch and digging your edge in and using an ice tool then what's the point besides to say you've "skied it"? I could probably down climb some 5.6 with skis on but it doesn't mean I've skied it. Its just way too contrived. But whatever... to each their own.

How bout that GRIzzle GRIzzle so bumblies can belay too and so you can burn down and drink beer while belaying.

I'm fast climber slow law exam taker. Its amazing how many alcoholics are lawyers.

Climbing into the desk at my Crim Law and Contracts finals. Climbing onto the bar stool when they're all over. Unsuccessfully trying to climb the steps to my home after I leave the bar....

Don't overlook France's major contribution to society in the area of male fashion: pink lycra climbing tights.

But we all need to know a little something about politics. For example did you know that if you use drugs, you're supporting the Taliban!! Its true I saw it on TV. Before I thought I was just supporting Canadian ganja farmers but apparantly that money goes straight to Osama himself. Crazy. Thank god I've been subsequently enlightened.

From what I've heard there isn't much snow or ice up there yet. Probably more ice than snow. There's world class ice in Glacier NP but most of it requires long approaches and is fairly committing. Low snow year means good access though. Check out the Big Sky Ice book by Ron Brunckhort. Its got a bunch of glacier ice and other stuff. Have fun bro, Whitefish is a good time all people do there is ski and drink. And go to the Great Northern bar.

There's only a few things in this world that you can pretty much count on, and the Huskies beating the Cougs is one of them.

Unfortunately experience usually only comes from making bad decisions. Like this one time at the Winthrop brew pub, T.A. was like order the Bushwacker its so good! So I ordered a pint and it tasted like shit! It was super thick and sour, like 50% alcohol or some shit. Fortunately noone was hurt becuase T.A. drank the rest of it and I had a budweiser. But now that I've gained that experience I know BEFORE I order a pint, not to go for the bushwacker but to stick with the pale ale!

TimL Erik and I go in January

I've climbed in nearly every range in the country and non-prejudicially the PNW is the most spectacular, unique, and challenging. There's no glacier approaches in the Sierra and the Colorado Rockies and its not as remote or as beautiful. Between Washington and BC there is the best alpine granite in the country. Yeah there's lots of alpine choss but there's also better rock here than in the Sierras. Granted its not the best ice climbing, there's few Yosemite style big walls, and its not as big as the Himalaya but it kicks ass for having in your own back yard. [ 11-21-2002, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: specialed ]

Everybody does stupid shit when they start leading. You just have to go for it and hope that the stupid shit you do isn't so stupid that you kill yourself. Try leading a bunch of sport climbs first that way there's less stupid shit to do. I've always thought a good general rule of thumb for climbers of all skill levels is don't get on a climb that challenges your gear placing abilities and your climbing abilities at the same time. But other than that drink two shots of espresso, shotgun four beers and you can climb anything.

In Montana we used to try and light dead trees on fire at the ski area to clear new runs. Once we got this big ass dead tree blazing, but the other trees never caught on - too much snow. Not really trundlin but good clean fun nonetheless.

Hardman implies suffering, potential death, and sustained endurance. Crag climbs, stout as they may be, don't include all of these elements.

Graybeard NF Coolnial, Watusi Rodeo or any other NF route Snoqualmie, NY Gully Big 4, Spindrift Couloir Werd.

I wanna do that Central Coulior on Mt. Joffre up there in the british columbia and that other route on Joffre that's 10d. Not hardman climbs but they look fun as shit. Oh yeah, I went to J-Tree this last weekend, it was 70degrees and sunny. And you guys in Seattle got rained on. Ha. [ 11-18-2002, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: specialed ]

quote: Originally posted by icegirl: Ah, but the winters in Omak are cold enough... Now I just have to convince my mom that it's a great idea Why don't you get on the ball and start a Ouray style ice park in the Methow. Then I can open up a fat hotel with a hot tub and charge all the ice deprived northwest ice climbers an arm and a leg to crowd into a closet sized room with no heat. Everyone's invited. Except Lamebone.

Girth Pillar, Mt. Stuart - winter or summer.

Yup got a little tan. SoCal might agree with me, but I don't agree with it!

El Escobo de Dios. Film of epic cold ass big wall in Torres Del Paine. BIg named dudes like Charlie Fowler shitting their pants and yelling at their buddies because they're so scared before the A4 sketch-fest leads.

Shove it pussy beer snobs. Old Style Pilsner Rocks and so does fuckin Budweiser. It tis the beverage choice of Hardmen and Hardwoman around the globe. Soft Candy-asses like you probably drink Zima and play golf.

Get in the fucking hole you tosser!

I went surfing today. No ice down in SoCal as of yet.