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Sweet! More well-thought-out wisdom on "how sport climbers do it"! That's what we need more of around here; some solid generalizations about how petty, egotistical, and stupid sport climbers are. Its not overgeneralization, its called the truth. Sport climbers do not have as much experience with the variety of climbing techniques as those who engage in the many other disciplines of climbing. There's a lot to be learned from sport climbing, but I find that too often those that only "sport-climb" tend to take themselves much too seriously. Time for beer

In the dumb-ass gym lead cave you have to stand in the right place and shit so as not to get the rope in the way of the leader. Sport climbers are way serious about their belays because, well, they don't have anything else to worry about and they have to blame someone when they keep falling on the sloper to the monodoit crossover after the fourth bolt.

Yeah its nice. I rarely go to the gym anyhow. Its about a block from school and I go at night sometimes. Daler - I think that's a pretty good point.

I think he tied in with boline around his waist

Underhyped: Index Cascades have the most variety and in every discipline of climbing (except maybe ice) something that's world class.

I agree with you Matt and Lambone (to some extent), except that this gym down here in San Diego is the most ridiculous unsafe ghetto affair ever. They don't even have top-rope belay tests, there's almost more spinning holds than good holds, and I've never seen them change or wash there holds once since I've been here. The employees stand around with their thumbs up there asses and its like pulling teeth to get them to do anything like give you a lead test. The instructor didn't even see if we were doubled back or tied in correctly or were belaying right. With inconsistencies like that how can you expect your customers to take anything seriously? Atleast in the Seattle gyms they're consistently anal. Oh and I skipped the bolt because the first I did clip was at my knee and I could reach beyond the second one to get to the third one. It didn't even occur to me to clip it.

Regardless, the Selkirks and surrounding mountains are fucking big and dangerous. On both of my ice climbing trips to that area I've been avalanched on. My good friend's dad died skiing there last year in a slide in the Kicking Horse backcountry, right in front of my friend and his sister and brother. It doesn't take much for big shit to cut lose there.

My roommate and I failed the lead belay test at the gym last night. Our effort culminated with the nazi gym worker bitch storming off yelling that she'd had enough because we were clowns and not taking it seriously enough. I was skipping bolts on the two foot by two foot grid bolt wall and Matt was using footholds from the red route instead of the white route. Too fuckin funny. We made a big scene in the gym and the gym bitch was crying and getting flustered and shit. She fuckin flipped out when I skipped one bolt. Then I hurt her feelings when I told her it was a hell of a lot more dangerous that the anchor you clip into at the top to lower from is a single bent gate carabiner. She wanted me to wait a day to take the test again since I had failed for skipping clips. I said bullshit we're both here now so I'm going to climb the route again. Holy Shit all this time I actually though I knew how to lead climb. HA!

If you've ever been too drunk to fish you're probably white trash, Also if your home has more miles on it than your car you're definetly livin the WT lifestyle. http://www.mulletsgalore.com/

WT don't climb, they go rappelin'

If "tastelessness" was the standard for being booted off this site, Lamebone should have been gone many times over.

How come no artistic interpretation so us stoopid people can picture it without reading all those words and using our brains to imagine what it looks like?

Most fun climbing memory is the summer-long climbing road trip with my girlfriend after college. It was 105 degrees in Zion and shit inside the truck would melt when we went climbing. And we still managed to do a handful of routes there. Our dog got bit in the nose by a rattlesnake in eastern Washington and the whole front of his body swelled up so much he looked like a fat St. Bernard. We sped around Yakima in the middle of the night panicking the dog would die looking for a vet. When we finally found one he said there wasn't much to do and the dog would be fine in a couple days. After that we just laughed at him because he looked so absurd. Then we went north and spent three weeks in Squamish, climbed in the N Cascades and went to the Bugs. It Also drinking PBR and climbing at the Smoke Bluffs with Erik, TimL, and his buddy who thought we were all a little out of control. Then going to the Squamish pub and hanging out with Dru and having a safety meeting in the van.

Thanks dude, a couple of the triggers on those Aliens I stole from you will need repair soon. You really should take better care of those things.

Anyone know how to get Aliens repaired? I've got an old green alien with a snapped trigger wire. Its in good enough condition to get it repaired and then take big whips on it. Does anyone know if you can send it to CCH for repair and how much it might cost?

I'm just saying that form of super technical descending does not appeal too much to me. It seems too contrived. Skiing is usually contrived but its fun because you're going fast and feel like you're flying espescially in the pooder. Climbing is contrived but usually you are atleast attempting to use the most practical way to get up your chosen route for you, whether aid, free or what. For most of those ski descents talked about in this thread you'd be better off walking down in crampons. Therefore methodical ski descents using ice axes and ropes are contrived and impractical too. Though I know those dudes, esp Troy Jungen (who my buddies have skiied with) are fucking bad ass and sick sick sick.

Litoris?

Most of those "ski descents" are stoopid as far as I'm concerned. Its more like down climbing with a snowboard/skis attached to your feet . If you can't actually "ski" without stopping a bunch and digging your edge in and using an ice tool then what's the point besides to say you've "skied it"? I could probably down climb some 5.6 with skis on but it doesn't mean I've skied it. Its just way too contrived. But whatever... to each their own.

How bout that GRIzzle GRIzzle so bumblies can belay too and so you can burn down and drink beer while belaying.

I'm fast climber slow law exam taker. Its amazing how many alcoholics are lawyers.

Climbing into the desk at my Crim Law and Contracts finals. Climbing onto the bar stool when they're all over. Unsuccessfully trying to climb the steps to my home after I leave the bar....

Don't overlook France's major contribution to society in the area of male fashion: pink lycra climbing tights.

But we all need to know a little something about politics. For example did you know that if you use drugs, you're supporting the Taliban!! Its true I saw it on TV. Before I thought I was just supporting Canadian ganja farmers but apparantly that money goes straight to Osama himself. Crazy. Thank god I've been subsequently enlightened.

From what I've heard there isn't much snow or ice up there yet. Probably more ice than snow. There's world class ice in Glacier NP but most of it requires long approaches and is fairly committing. Low snow year means good access though. Check out the Big Sky Ice book by Ron Brunckhort. Its got a bunch of glacier ice and other stuff. Have fun bro, Whitefish is a good time all people do there is ski and drink. And go to the Great Northern bar.